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Post Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 11:36 pm   Half formed thoughts on basking

This post is a mish mash of quasi-free form rambling.

First, what started it: I live at the northernmost natural range for RES. On the daily walks for the dog, I frequently go by a pond that has RES, painted turtles and snappers. There are few good basking areas, but I do see RES and painteds on the few that are there. I see many many more floating at the surface.

At work, we border a pond with tons of great basking areas in fallen trees cluttering the pond. I see many basking turtles, even stacked turtles.

I see turtles basking at noon at the end of June. Using a solarmeter 6.2, I've gotten readings of 350 at that time. These turtles are basking on water, which means the UVB is reflecting off the surface and hitting the underside of outstretched limbs.

These wild turtles also brumate in the winter under ice, unlike our turtles--and this winter in the Chicago area, that ice got pretty thick. I saw wild turtles first basking when the air temp was in the high 50's.

I know we can't replicate that annual cycle. But, I wonder if we are under providing UVB. My MegaRay is outputting around a max 90 micro watts at its highest point, and that is on my turtles shell, not her skin.

I have a 55 gallon for now with an ATBA on one side. I'm seriously considering a second on the other with higher UVB to offer my turtle the choice. I don't think I can use a MegaRay because the heat would be too high. But, I'm thinking a cfl UVB plus incandescent for heat.

Has anyone tried different UVB level basking areas?

Can anyone further south who sees basking RES in the wild comment on what time of day you see them basking?
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Post Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:40 pm   Re: Half formed thoughts on basking

Very interesting thoughts. I think it's safe to add more UVB, but someone would need to do some actual lab work to see how much they can maximize.
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Post Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 5:34 am   Re: Half formed thoughts on basking

Here in the Sunflower State they bask pretty much all day. Air temps in the 40 to 50° range when I first start trout fishing and in the 100° summer. Are you using the 100 or 160 watt bulb?
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Post Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 8:53 pm   Re: Half formed thoughts on basking

I have the 160. I have not made any changes, but I'm still considering it.
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Post Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2014 9:08 am   Re: Half formed thoughts on basking

Have you tested a cfl for uvb output?
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Post Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2014 12:41 pm   Re: Half formed thoughts on basking

Kansasslider wrote:Have you tested a cfl for uvb output?


Over a year ago. I don't remember the numbers, but I do remember it was higher than the PowerSun MVB and lower than the MegaRay.
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Post Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2014 12:55 pm   Re: Half formed thoughts on basking

I was just wondering if the repti glo 5.0 put out enough uvb? That's what I use now just because the mega ray is on the pricy side. And reviews of the power sun are terrible. Repti glo also now has an new cfl 200. I started a thread on it.
Edit: I see you found it already.
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