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Post Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:59 pm   Bleeding on Arm - Caused by shell?

Noticed my turtle has some blood on its right arm - it seems to be caused by the sharp point on its bottom shell when the arm moves in and out. I was watching him and the red spot seems to be hit by the shell every time the arm goes in and out. I've been dry docking him since I noticed it. Photos attached!

Also, took a couple photos of the shell - it's very white. He has been basking quite a bit these days and I can see some of it loosening up but any way to speed it up?

Any help would be appreciated! Thanks!

How big is your turtle? Shell length is about 6 inches
How long have you had it? 10 years

What is the water temperature? 74 F
Did you use a thermometer? No
Are you using a water heater? Yes
How much water is in there? 15 gallons
Are you using a water conditioner? No
Are you using any filtration? No

What is the basking temperature? 80 F
Is there a basking light? Yes
Is there a basking platform that is easy to climb on? Yes
What kind is it or what is it made out of? Metal
Is there a UVB light? Yes

What have you been trying to feed it? Pellets, carrots
When was the last time your turtle ate? This morning

How big is the tank/pond/enclosure? Decent-sized
Is the tank near a window? No
Is the tank in a room with a lot of activity? Not really

Have you read the Basic Care section? Yes
Have you searched the forums for similar situations? Yes

Is there any other unusual activity/symptoms? See attached photos
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Post Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:08 pm   Re: Bleeding on Arm - Caused by shell?

It does look like the gular scute is hitting his arm. It looks like he has grown a little too fast and has not had a change to shed properly. He also has shell fungus which probably means he didn't bask enough or couldn't fully dry off his shell regularly.

As long as the shedding process is starting, I would just leave it for a bit longer. Fungus sheds away, but never completely and will come back without medication. Fungus also makes shedding long and difficult. It traps water and debris, potentially causing other types of infection. Are any of them loose (when the shell is dry, and you press against it does water seep out)?
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Post Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 7:32 pm   Re: Bleeding on Arm - Caused by shell?

Should I be worried about the red spot though? He is still very active so it seems like the scute is still hitting his arm.

Some of the top layers on both the top and bottom of my turtle are a bit loose - when it's dry no water seeps out. Are you seeing fungus on the top or bottom? I'm down to buy medication to get rid of the fungus once and for all - any suggestions?

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Post Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2020 5:35 am   Re: Bleeding on Arm - Caused by shell?

The cut? I don't think there is much you can do. You can dry dock him to help it heal and minimize the injury, but you will most likely have to wait for him to shed or have a vet file it down which I would not recommend.

There is fungus on the top and bottom. It spreads quickly, and is contagious. If you had another turt in there, both would have it. For meds, the best is silver sulfadiazine cream, but you need to get a prescription in most countries.
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Post Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 4:22 am   Re: Bleeding on Arm - Caused by shell?

Thanks! Is the fungus the white parts of the shell??

The water in my area is also hard water so could it also be a build up of minerals??

Any suggestions for alternate creams/treatment method? Seems pretty difficult to get it as a prescription in Canada =(
My pharmacist friend mentioned nyaderm (nystain cream) is similar - do you think that could be used instead?

Did some additional reading and it seems like betadine could work. Is it sufficient with just betadine and dry docking?
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Post Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 11:36 pm   Re: Bleeding on Arm - Caused by shell?

There have been various mentioned on the forum, but I have not tried them. Most are OTC and the usage might be different. You can try betadine (I have), but I doubt it alone will work.
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