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Uncertain if gravid?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:05 am
by Insanity
Since the weekend, Morla has been spending most of the day swimming about her tank, rarely coming out to bask, and when she does, it's for a few minutes before she slips back into the water.

I've been at home the last two days and can watch her, and for the most part, she is just swimming. I haven't seen her attempt to dig with her hindfeet, but she's shifted the decor quite a bit.

She has been eating, but less than what she was a couple of weeks ago. During the night, she rests along the bottom as usual. She did eat 3 or 4 of the feeder fish that have been tank mates for months (and have grown as I was feeding them too) just prior to all of this, so I've wonder if she's just digesting fish.

I believe she behaved much the same in December when we were out of town for Christmas and I had added several feeder fish, which I think she ate overnight, and then didn't seem interested in pellets when we returned. I did have an auto feeder for her as well then.

If I decide I should get a nest box together, what size should it be? Her SCL is 21.6 cm.

Re: Uncertain if gravid?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:23 pm
by steve
It doesn't sound like she is gravid. A major sign is when they will aggressively try to get out of the tank (showing lack of interest in food when in this mood). I would feel for them to confirm it before making a nesting box. For dimensions, I would make it at least 10" deep but keep in mind nesting boxes usually don't work.

Re: Uncertain if gravid?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:54 pm
by Insanity
She's not attempting to climb out of the tank, but spending most of her time swimming about and rarely coming out to bask.

I want to say she's done this before, lasted several days, than returned to more normal behavior. I don't have records to support my recollection of when though, probably not a bad idea to keep an record of odd behavior.

Re: Uncertain if gravid?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:57 pm
by steve
Was she gravid when that happened last time?

Re: Uncertain if gravid?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:18 pm
by Insanity
Not that I was aware of. I may just be paranoid now.

Re: Uncertain if gravid?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 11:32 pm
by steve
I would confirm it before you do anything else, but I think she's just in a different mood.

Re: Uncertain if gravid?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 10:37 am
by Insanity
Witnessed her basking a bit yesterday and came in the room at a later time to see her basking.

Also witnessed her apparently attempting to climb up the filter intake hose, which is near the ramp to her basking area.

I took her out and weighed her and she's lost 39 grams (2.6%) since the end of January. I did try to feel if she's gravid, but her feet were tucked in.

Re: Uncertain if gravid?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 11:02 am
by steve
If you have space for her outside of the tank, you could follow her and wait until she stops with her leg out then you can go in for a feel. As for the weight loss, I don't have any stats regarding weight loss/gain when being gravid. I would just guess it's from the winter slow down. Do you have records from previous slow downs?

Re: Uncertain if gravid?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 11:14 am
by Insanity
Unfortunately no, my log starts last January, though she gained weight each month through December. This is the first weight loss, and I also thought it's from being less active during the winter.

I have space in the house. I live in Michigan, the outdoors is still chilly.

Re: Uncertain if gravid?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 1:13 pm
by steve
Indoor roaming is fine, just keep a paper towel with you for accidents. And give her a quick rinse before she goes back into the tank :)

How old is she?

Re: Uncertain if gravid?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 1:23 pm
by Insanity
I'm uncertain of her age as I adopted her. She's likely a mature adult given her size: SCL 21.6 cm, 1437 grams.

Re: Uncertain if gravid?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 4:45 pm
by steve
Sounds good, I'm sure she will be fine.

Re: Uncertain if gravid?

PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:09 am
by Insanity
Some updates.
I did a scheduled water change, the water chemistry is typical: no hardness, high alkalinity, pH 7.5, nitrite 0.5, nitrate 20, ammonia 0.
Water temp ~74°F, basking area ~ 90°F.

She still seems to be ignoring pellets, so I got some mealworms and she eats those quite readily.

Maybe she's bored with pellets?
Once it's warmer outside, I usually get worms or large insects for her, but not that time of year yet.

Re: Uncertain if gravid?

PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:31 am
by Insanity
I forgot to include a photo. I took her out to do a close examination to be certain she didn't have any injuries. She's been shedding a bit.

I wasn't certain if her beak is overgrown a bit. I do offer cuttlebone, but i think her interest in that has dwindled too.
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Re: Uncertain if gravid?

PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:40 pm
by steve
Beak looks OK, but a little hard to tell. My male RES will only eat tuna, chicken, or my "jell-o" treat. My female RES has lost interest in lettuce, and that's a first in 15 years.