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Making a cave soon But need a little help.

PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:33 pm
by AirFarceLive
Hello everyone!
I am soon going to upgrade my tank and make it a 35Hx41Wx60L tank and I am planing to ad a group of 5 Tiger Barbs.
The problem is I want to make a safety cave for the fish but I dont want the turtle to get stuck which would probably be fatal if I dont notice it.
I need you guys to help me out on this please!

-Peter S.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:16 pm
by Hammerstix
If the turtle can get in, the turtle can gey out.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:11 am
by steve
What about small PVC fittings? They are usually white, but do come in different colors (will probably have to be purchased online). You can paint them with Krylon Fusion.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 2:12 am
by devilduck
I love tiger barbs, they are such a fun fish to watch when they are in a healthy shoal! With a tank that size you can probably have twice that number of tigers.

I found that adding a lot of plants, driftwood and rocks helps the Tiger barbs last longer. They act like obstacles to slow down the pursuing turtle. Tiger barbs also go into a deep sleep at night, most of the time in separate corners of the tank, so having the plants give them a place to hide and some sense of security. I have my tank divided in 1/2 with one side open and the other heavily planted with both fake and plastic plants and diftwood to act as a fish safety zone.

I have a "cave", a heavy resin log that is home to my a CAE and acts as a shallow water area for the turtle. My barbs swim through it but don't linger too long...maybe because the CAE chases them out. I would go with either something light enough that the turtle can move easily of they get stuck or something heavy that they can't move or get stuck in.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 1:36 pm
by AirFarceLive
All right! I just bought the silicone and I am ready to start, I will stick with your Idea devilduck (LOL) about having alot of plants and driftwood... lets get started !!!!

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 12:33 am
by steve
How will you be using the silicone?

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 5:05 am
by AirFarceLive
to stick them together.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:53 pm
by steve
Silicone only sticks to certain surfaces and material. If you're not sure, ask or try it out on a small test area.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:07 pm
by devilduck
You can also use cyanoacrylate aka crazy glue. Dries instantly in water and is aquarium safe. Downside is that it doesn't stick to everything and turns white underwater.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 2:58 pm
by VeipaCray
steve wrote:Silicone only sticks to certain surfaces and material. If you're not sure, ask or try it out on a small test area.


+1

devilduck wrote:You can also use cyanoacrylate aka crazy glue. Dries instantly in water and is aquarium safe. Downside is that it doesn't stick to everything and turns white underwater.


+1 If you go with super / crazy glue... get the gel for gluing under water. The regular stuff is too watery. Most every dollar store has super glue gel.


Another option is epoxy putty. It's also aquarium safe when fully cured. Most fish stores will carry epoxy putty - usually the two little fishes brand. It's over in the saltwater section as it's used to secure coral to rock or plugs. It comes in a few colors so you might get a match to whatever piece you're working with. A less expensive option that's still aquarium safe is hardware store epoxy putty. Aquamend or loc tite brand are available at most home improvement stores for cheap. The downside to these is they are usually blue or white.. not much color choice. They do however hold much better than superglue and can still be used underwater.

Yet another option is JB weld or JB qwik. It's another two part epoxy that bonds to most surfaces. It's the strongest bond of anything mentioned in this post but it cannot be used under water until it's fully cured. It's a dark gray / black color and it's aquarium safe once it's fully cured. JB qwik cures much faster than regular jb weld.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 3:16 pm
by cutepanda86
Not sure if this helps but Loctite works great (I'm building a boat to float and the Loctite holds). I don't think it's toxic but it wouldn't hurt to check out. :)

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 3:36 pm
by AirFarceLive
thank you all! I finished my structure and I am currently testing it with 25 cent gold fish :)

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 8:36 pm
by AirFarceLive
I have a question, if I use 'clear silicone ADHESIVE SEALANT, indoor/outdoor, waterproof and flexible" is it safe for both the fish and turtle?

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:46 am
by Kado
AirFarceLive wrote:thank you all! I finished my structure and I am currently testing it with 25 cent gold fish :)


We need proof..where are the pics? :lol: