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driftwood

PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 3:47 pm
by cam722
Has anyone used driftwood in their setups??? I bought some small pieces and thought it would go with my "natural" setup. I've read up on how to prepare it but now I'm wondering if its safe for them. They say to boil, reboil and keep boiling until all the tannins are out of the wood...

Just want to make sure its safe before I put it in, so any help or comments are appreciated. Need to keep the babies safe :)

PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 4:44 pm
by GouzlanTheAmerican
if you boil the wood 3 times i would say it is safe. just be carfull when you take it out of the boiling water. (dont want to get burned).

PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 4:48 pm
by cam722
LOL.. I think I'm old enough to know how to deal with boiling water.. but Thanks :)

I've boiled it more than 3 times and the water is still very dark. Like very dark tea.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 7:35 pm
by redearcoma
cam722 wrote:LOL.. I think I'm old enough to know how to deal with boiling water.. but Thanks :)

I've boiled it more than 3 times and the water is still very dark. Like very dark tea.


I think it's not a problem since it's natural for the water to be dark when you try to boil wood.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:00 am
by bradhart
I used to have driftwood, but took it out. After a few months it got really gross with algae and white stuff growing on it. I would take it out, clean it really well, and within a few hours of it being in the tank it was full of crap again

PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:22 am
by cam722
yeah I have feeling I'm going to scrape that idea.. good thing it wasn't a lot of money. The more I've read about it the more I realize its a BAD idea.. it tends to create problems and uses up the filter media rather quickly not to mention making the water murky and all the algae problems.. oh well :)

PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:44 am
by marisa
It's not a good idea to boil wood--it will break down the cellulose in it, and cause the wood to disintegrate more quickly and develop cracks.

The tannins, while not that pretty to look at, aren't bad for the turt. And in time, they won't turn the water the color of tea.

I've never had good luck with wood in the tank--earlier this year I tried some pieces of grapevine from T-Rex in the tank (looked like driftwood). It looked really nice and the turts liked to bask on it. After about a week, though, I noticed the part that was exposed to water was covered with a pale green jelly-like film. The wood had to be constantly cleaned and dried to keep the film from reappearing. I since found out that grapevine isn't recommmended for tanks with high humidity.

Now if you want a natural look, consider corkbark... :)

PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 12:55 pm
by cam722
actually what I got was grapewood... but all the sites I read said to boil it. Oh well, not going to use it in the tank anyway. I was also thinking of cork bark so I'm looking for that now :)

PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 1:01 pm
by marisa
I'll bet it was what I had (the grapevine). Not good for high-humidity habitats/water. I still use it for an outdoor set-up, though. It rests on rocks and is only in the water when the turts are outside; it's take out of the tank to dry when the tank isn't being used.

marisa

PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 11:25 pm
by VWALEXVW
so marisa ur sure the tanins will not hurt my turtles? how do u know this? and that is why im getting the orangish water?

PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 3:07 pm
by marisa
Yes, I'm sure tannins will not hurt your turtle (you could save me a little work and do a search on the subject if you don't believe me). They actually make the water slightly more acidic, which is good if the water is more alkaline. Don't know about the orange water--what kind of wood are you using, what else is in the tank, does your water have a high rust content?

Re: marisa

PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 3:11 pm
by flutterby
VWALEXVW wrote:so marisa ur sure the tanins will not hurt my turtles? how do u know this? and that is why im getting the orangish water?


I'm wondering why you're cross posting after we answered this question yesterday in another thread.

omg

PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 4:30 pm
by VWALEXVW
this guy man...listen u told me not to cross post and all that and dont make new topics, or make new topics wen u cant find something, then u sent me here to check one of the problems i had, and now ur still being a problem,,,,do ur job check yourself before you keep checking my [----] got it?

PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 4:46 pm
by cam722
marisa wrote:Yes, I'm sure tannins will not hurt your turtle (you could save me a little work and do a search on the subject if you don't believe me).


VWALEXVW: Marisa who is usually one of the most patient people here is basically saying in that post to look up things for yourself. You ask for help and when you're given that help you look for another answer like what you were told isn't correct. Either you accept the help given or you find the answers for yourself.

Now instead of ranting about something someone said that you're taking offense to.. either answer the questions a person has asked you so they can help you further.. i.e. Marisa asking if your water has a high rust content. or just move on.

hey

PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 7:29 pm
by VWALEXVW
marisa wrote:Yes, I'm sure tannins will not hurt your turtle (you could save me a little work and do a search on the subject if you don't believe me). They actually make the water slightly more acidic, which is good if the water is more alkaline. Don't know about the orange water--what kind of wood are you using, what else is in the tank, does your water have a high rust content?


thanks for ur answer..phew i thought it could be hurting them, no everything in the tank is brand spanking new, the wood came from the store specifically cleaned for this type, the tank is a 40 gallon breeder.