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80-90 degrees Fahrenheit in the shade. How hot is too hot?

PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:52 pm
by BorneoTurtleLovers
I want to make sure our new little turtles get proper basking but I don't want them to get baked. If I get a basking light 10 degrees hotter then the outside air then that 90-100 degrees! I though about putting it on during the night, I think thats what Ill have to do. It doesn't get too much cooler at night. But is there any temperature that is too hot?

Besides that they seem really happy frolicking around trying to escape. They did it a few times but I have made it totally escape proof. We have an outdoor fish pond at our bed and breakfast. The guests love looking at the little buggers. Chris and I stare at them all day when we have a chance. Hahaha. Oh look! Its diving! Oh! How cute its climbing! ect. :lol:

PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:01 am
by jozzep
You must have misunderstood the basic care section.
If the turtles are kept outdoors, they don't need a basking light since the natural sunlight does all the work.
The "10 degree hotter rule" applies if you keep your turtles in an indoor fish tank, then the basking area needs to be 10 degrees hotter than the water temperature ( water 76 degrees, basking area 85/90)
Hope this clears some misconceptions you may have had.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:18 am
by BorneoTurtleLovers
But they do not get direct natural sun light. It can get 110 in the direct sunlight real fast. My concern is for them to get UVB light. UVA is not enough right? Today I took one who was awake out in the sun for less then a minute. It was way to hot for me to stand in and I am sure he might get uncomfortable after too much longer.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 7:48 pm
by jozzep
BorneoTurtleLovers wrote:But they do not get direct natural sun light. It can get 110 in the direct sunlight real fast. My concern is for them to get UVB light. UVA is not enough right? Today I took one who was awake out in the sun for less then a minute. It was way to hot for me to stand in and I am sure he might get uncomfortable after too much longer.


May i ask to describe your outdoor pond a bit more in detail? Why does it not get direct sunlight? Not even a few hours a day?
Even if it is 110, they will bask till they get too hot and jump back in the water to cool off.
Half hour of natural sunlight a day is a million times better than 8 hours of artificial UVA/UVB.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 1:00 am
by aal
Perhaps he means that his pond is shaded with trees or plants and it gets hot but sunlight doesn't penetrate through the forage. I have the same problem but mine gets 2 hours of sunlight a day.

PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 3:37 am
by papoopeepoo
The turtles are getting natural UV rays. Unless the shade is really dense (almost dark), a lot of UV light can get through to the surface. This is why it is possible to get a sunburn in the shade or on a cloudy day.

You should not need supplemental lighting outdoors.