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Turtlefarms.com's "salmonella free turtles"....

Posted:
Thu Jun 29, 2006 6:56 pm
by DanielRES1180
I just went on an AOL search and got onto a site that sells "salmonella-free" turtles. They claim to use the Siebeling method of cleansing, but I doubt it. See
Concordia Turtle Farms LLC

Posted:
Thu Jun 29, 2006 7:20 pm
by sarah
lol Can you even do that?

Posted:
Thu Jun 29, 2006 10:45 pm
by missibsu
"Theeeyyy'rrrrre BACK!
Turtle Couples Are Once Again Available!!
Start your own Real Live Turtle Family!"
Taken from their home page...it makes me sick.

Posted:
Thu Jun 29, 2006 10:48 pm
by buttrflydreams06
missibsu wrote:"Theeeyyy'rrrrre BACK!
Turtle Couples Are Once Again Available!!
Start your own Real Live Turtle Family!"
Taken from their home page...it makes me sick.
are you kiding it really says that?

Posted:
Thu Jun 29, 2006 10:51 pm
by steve
from
http://www.turtlefarms.com/how3.htm
CTF - How We Do It! - page 3
"Eggs are then placed in vacuum tanks where we use the Siebeling method to eradicate salmonella."
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from
http://coloherp.org/cb-news/Vol-29/cbn- ... eFarms.php
Turtle Farmers Seek Relaxed Restrictions on Pet Sales
"He said he was aware that Ron Siebeling, a microbiologist at Louisiana State University, had developed and the state agriculture had approved a method of killing salmonella bacteria on and in the egg.
However, he said he and his colleagues were never convinced that the process really solved the problem. The FDA objected to later versions of Siebeling's process because they used antibiotics and because there was no way to guarantee that turtles would stay salmonella-free. Siebeling refused to talk to The Associated Press about his work."

Posted:
Thu Jun 29, 2006 11:09 pm
by buttrflydreams06
that is so wrong. how can they do that to those poor turtles

Posted:
Thu Jun 29, 2006 11:24 pm
by missibsu
Misleading in advertisement...marketing something that isn't proven.
I noticed another comment on their homepage..."The customer is always right" Hmmm, in a way, it makes me want to be a customer...does that mean I'll always be right after that, and that they have to listen to me? HA HA

Posted:
Thu Jun 29, 2006 11:27 pm
by buttrflydreams06
ive lived in louisiana my whole life and never once have i heard of a turtle farm. oysters yes. turtles no. they dont talk about turtles here. its always alligators here. you'd think with as many turtles we have in our city parks they'd talk about them more but they don't. noone cares here. not even the aquarium and wild life and fisheries.

Posted:
Thu Jun 29, 2006 11:41 pm
by steve
Louisiana is probably the largest producer of captive red ears. It seems a lot of the farms are family businesses dating back to the pre-federal salmonella laws. It's unfortunate that they make enough money to keep going.

Posted:
Thu Jun 29, 2006 11:47 pm
by buttrflydreams06
its sad ive never even heard of it. i could understand a few but do we have to have 56!!!! my lord they probably have millons hatch every year. which would probably be contributing to the amount of turtles in our parks.

Posted:
Fri Jun 30, 2006 9:08 am
by DanielRES1180
steve wrote:from
http://www.turtlefarms.com/how3.htmCTF - How We Do It! - page 3"Eggs are then placed in vacuum tanks where we use the Siebeling method to eradicate salmonella."
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from
http://coloherp.org/cb-news/Vol-29/cbn- ... eFarms.phpTurtle Farmers Seek Relaxed Restrictions on Pet Sales"He said he was aware that Ron Siebeling, a microbiologist at Louisiana State University, had developed and the state agriculture had approved a method of killing salmonella bacteria on and in the egg.
However, he said he and his colleagues were never convinced that the process really solved the problem. The FDA objected to later versions of Siebeling's process because they used antibiotics and because there was no way to guarantee that turtles would stay salmonella-free. Siebeling refused to talk to The Associated Press about his work."
Hmm, never knew what the hell the Siebeling method was besides a thing to "remove" salmonella. How does it work anyway, or is this what Mr. Siebeling declines to say?

Posted:
Sat Jul 01, 2006 7:35 pm
by ellman605
"The next step is certification that the turtles are "Salmonella Free". The state veterinarian samples every lot of 20,000 baby turtles."
Don't go to that vet


Posted:
Sun Jul 02, 2006 10:02 am
by DanielRES1180
ellman605 wrote:"The next step is certification that the turtles are "Salmonella Free". The state veterinarian samples every lot of 20,000 baby turtles."
Don't go to that vet

lol. It seems he doesn't know salmonella can't be removed.