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Weird dark purple bag coming out of cloaca?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 10:23 am
by guidoti
Hi,

I posted something here many years ago, and you guys helped me more than any local vet. I'm betting on this forum again.

I literally just noticed one of my turtles with this huge, dark purple, bag, coming out of his cloaca. It's a male. I thought it could be the penis for the very first time (he is over 13 years old) but the shape is oddly weird for a penis.

It's already back inside of him. I have two other turtles, one female, and they all have separate but near tanks, so they can see each other. I removed the female from her tank, to calm this male down a bit, and it worked.

But I'm not sure if this was normal or not, or if this was the penis or not... When I went back for a photo, it was already back in. There is no change in behavior or anything else.

What do you think?

Thanks in advance

Re: Weird dark purple bag coming out of cloaca?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 10:34 am
by guidoti
Not my photo, but I found some identical things on the web. But still not sure if so-called 'fanning', which I'm assuming it's the 'showing off penis' behavior, or prolapsing any internal organ.

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Re: Weird dark purple bag coming out of cloaca?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 10:40 am
by guidoti
Just one more piece of info: he was inside of his tank, I was not handling him or whatever, and I never noticed him doing this before (13 years old). I've another male that never did it before, same age.

Thanks

Re: Weird dark purple bag coming out of cloaca?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 12:00 pm
by steve
Yes, it's his penis. It's normal and it should go back. It's important to not have other turtles around as they might bite it. My male RES fanned when he was younger (I guess he was learning what it was) but its been years since I saw him fanning. It might come out when stressed (holding him too long) but I normally don't see it.

Re: Weird dark purple bag coming out of cloaca?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 12:42 pm
by guidoti
Thanks Steve!

You talked to me years ago, and actually, saved the day. I've three turtles but it's always the same one that makes me post here.

I never seen this before. And I hold them all the time, but only because they seem to be very relaxed with me (the female is sleeping on my lap as I type, for example). They have individual tanks... But separated by glass, meaning, they can see each other and they do 'fluttering' all the time (this male and the female). Maybe this proximity is the trigger to the fanning?

Thanks, Steve.

Re: Weird dark purple bag coming out of cloaca?

PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2020 11:27 am
by steve
No problem! Always glad to help :D
I wouldn't say the fluttering leads to fanning but I do think fanning is more related to instinctive reactions. So if he didn't see the other turtle, there would be less fluttering as well.