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Post Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 7:06 pm   Turtle Fell out of tank

Hello. About an hour ago my turtle fell out of her tank. She managed to get on top of the screen and fell off (about 3 feet). Thank God I was home. She seems to be fine but she damaged her shell so i am wondering what I should do. I have attached a couple images. The area is exposed bone, there was no bleeding and no cracks that I can see.

She is starting to open her mouth wide and acts like she is gagging!?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2OPLQ ... sp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2OPLQ ... sp=sharing

Edit: Not sure how to get images to display here.

Update: she is bleeding from her mouth. We are at the vet now.

Update: The vet doesn't seem too concerned about the mouth bleeding, said its probably superficial. I am not sure if I agree but it isn't bleeding any more as far as I can tell. He does seem concerned with the scoot which is kinda bleeding now (little spots). He said to use iodine and dry dock her for several hours a day.
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Frankie was rescued from some kids that accidentally dropped a light on her when she was little.
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Post Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 1:34 am   Re: Turtle Fell out of tank

Sorry to hear about your situation. I don't think I've seen it completely white like that before. Usually it's the edge that is damaged so this could mean that the neighboring scutes are affected too (even if it's not observable). Bleeding is actually a good thing since it will create scar tissue, but since this the whole scute, I'm not sure how it will progress.
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Post Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 8:27 am   Re: Turtle Fell out of tank

When I got her home last night she was bleeding more from her mouth. I really think she has some sort of internal bleeding. I haven't checked on her today yet. I am really worried about her. Is it okay to put her in the water if I suspect internal injuries? Should I try to take her somewhere else? Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks.
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Post Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 9:29 am   Re: Turtle Fell out of tank

It's possible she cut the inside of her mouth. Did the vet take a look? She can go into the water so she can drink/rehydrate. Don't leave her in there if she's having trouble swimming.
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Post Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 9:39 am   Re: Turtle Fell out of tank

Well right after it happened she wasn't bleeding and she was acting like she wanted to throw up. Once we got to a vet she was bleeding. I would think if she cut herself she would have started bleeding right away. I put her back in the tank right after it happened and she was swimming fine. I may try to take her to a more specialized vet today.
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Frankie was rescued from some kids that accidentally dropped a light on her when she was little.
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Post Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 6:18 pm   Re: Turtle Fell out of tank

Update: This morning Frankie had a little blood on her mouth. She struggled to swim and go under real deep. During her feeding she struggled to eat and was squirting a lot of water out of her nostrils, like a bath toy. We felt the bleeding from her mouth had to be more serious as there were no scrapes or cuts near or in her mouth.
We took Frankie to Monfort Heights Animal Clinic. They were great there. They examined her, did a float test, and took x-rays. They opened her mouth and there were not cuts or anything, and her flesh was paler than normal. Turns out she did have internal bleeding from the fall, the vet suspects from the lungs. Her underbelly is slightly cracked, and she is missing her scute piece on the bottom left side. During the float test the vet and I witnessed Frankie struggling to stay even and go under. The vet suspected she had some internal injury or bruising. The x-ray confirmed she had bruising on her left lung, and air in her intestines. The vet gave us 5 anti-biotic shots to give to Frankie over a period of two and half weeks. She also told us to soak her broken scute in diluted Betadine solution, rinse, and apply neosporine. The vet also advised until her check up in three weeks not to do any unsupervised swimming. Frankie has some visible bruising on her front right arm and back left leg. She is also starting to bruise on her exposed scute. After arriving home from the vet, Frankie vomited up her food that she ate before we left, the vet said this was normal since we were handling her and moving her around for x-rays and driving..etc. Right now she is resting and I will continue with the updates. Thank you all for your help and support.

Total price for the two vet visits, medicine, and x-rays so far is ~$240

I have attached some x-ray images of her left side, under belly, and back left side with the damaged scute. Not sure what good they will do anyone here but they look cool.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2OPLQ ... sp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2OPLQ ... sp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2OPLQ ... sp=sharing
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Frankie was rescued from some kids that accidentally dropped a light on her when she was little.
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Post Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 9:51 pm   Re: Turtle Fell out of tank

Wow, thanks for this update. Poor Frankie :( I have not heard of such significant injuries from a fall before. Your instincts here paid off and I hope she has a quick recovery.
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Post Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 9:59 am   Re: Turtle Fell out of tank

Day 4ish update. So I am going to clear things up a little. I believe that when Frankie fell out of her tank, she hit the edge of another tank about halfway through the fall, and then fell the rest of the way to the floor. I believe this is what lead to the significant injuries.

She seems to be doing much better, much more active, even the next day. We originally were dry docking her in a box overnight Thursday night, Friday night, Saturday night, and finally Sunday night. As I mention above the Vet didn't want any unsupervised swimming. We stayed home with her all weekend and she swam all day both days. Well, Monday came along and I had her in the box while we were at work. I have a webcam setup so I can watch her while I am away from home and when I checked on her at work in the morning she was on her back! I kept watching and she wasn't getting flipped back over. I called everyone I could think of to go get her and I finally got ahold of someone at our apartment complex to go and flip her back (She was flipped for at least an hour!) I was amazed she was okay. I was frantically searching Google and didn't find anything about how long she could stay like that? Of course she ended up flipping back over about 5 minutes later, thankfully my fiancee was coming home from work to watch her and got there about 15 minutes later. So, after all of that and once I got home it was time to give her, her second shot of anti-biotics. We gave her the shot which she didn't like at all, as soon as we stuck her she peed all over the floor. Then she ate some food and about 10 minutes later she threw it all up. We spoke with the vet and she said that the shot shouldn't make her do that, but it seems like too much of a coincidence to me so we will see what happens Thursday.

So after all of that I decided she can't be in the box alone because she could get flipped and die, and she can't swim alone (at least in 75 gallons of water). So last night we drained the tank and kinda cleaned it, then filled the tank about 1/4 of the way. She can now kinda swim, but it isn't too deep for her to get tired and not be able to breath.

Clearly she is a fighter and I think she is going to be okay, she is very active and still has a very good appetite. I will continue to update with progress and pictures. She shell is purplish on the white portion where her scute fell off which the vet said is a bruise.
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One Red ear slider named Frank
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Post Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 7:37 pm   Re: Turtle Fell out of tank

If she's flipped over in a dry area, it'll be ok. It's in water or shallow beach areas where this would be trouble. It's not an ideal situation considering all she's going through. Does she have areas where she can hide while in dry dock?
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Post Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 9:16 am   Re: Turtle Fell out of tank

She is no longer dry docking so I don't have to worry about it any more. She still seems to be doing fine, however the antibiotics she receives with shots make she throw up. She has had 3 so far. The first one the vet said was probably due to the drive to the vet and all of the stress. When it happened again the vet said it couldn't be the shot, because it doesn't work quick enough to cause a reaction that quick (about 15 minutes). The last one was yesterday and I spoke with the vet after she started getting sick. The vet said she would call back today, but to discontinue the antibiotics while she tries to find another solution. Anyone ever had to give antibiotics to their turtle or heard anything about it making them sick? The vet acted like she had never had it cause a problem before.
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Frankie was rescued from some kids that accidentally dropped a light on her when she was little.
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Post Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 9:54 am   Re: Turtle Fell out of tank

Im so sorry about what happened to your turtle hopefully she gets better soon

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Post Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 1:37 pm   Re: Turtle Fell out of tank

butterflygirl921 wrote:Im so sorry about what happened to your turtle hopefully she gets better soon


Thanks I think she will!

So I decided to take advantage of the situation and make some changes to my tank. I have created a new thread with some question.

http://www.redearslider.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=36971
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Frankie was rescued from some kids that accidentally dropped a light on her when she was little.
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Post Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 5:57 am   Re: Turtle Fell out of tank

I haven't had to use injections before, but I know they can generally cause a suppression in appetite. I'll check out the other thread now...
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Post Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2015 7:45 pm   Re: Turtle Fell out of tank

Went to the vet today for a check-up. Frankie seems to be doing well. The vet said that her scute will take about a year to grow back. I have my tank filled again and made some changes she seems to be enjoying it. I will update with some images as things get better.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2OPLQ ... sp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2OPLQ ... sp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2OPLQ ... sp=sharing
One Red ear slider named Frank
-Frank is actually a Frankie
-Age: 9 years
-Number of eyes: 1

Frankie was rescued from some kids that accidentally dropped a light on her when she was little.
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Post Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 7:00 am   Re: Turtle Fell out of tank

Good to hear! The setup looks pretty nice, but do you think she can still get out?
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