Urgent Care :: White spots on body not on shell

[kwoody]

How big is your turtle? One Inch
How long have you had it? One Month

What is the water temperature? around 80
Are you using a water heater? Yes
How much water is in there? about 3 inch deep
Are you using a water conditioner? Yes
Are you using any filtration? Yes

What is the basking temperature? around 85
Is there a basking light? Yes
Is there a basking platform that is easy to climb on? Yes
What kind is it or what is it made out of? Wood
Is there a UVB light? Yes

What have you been trying to feed it? yes
When was the last time your turtle ate? 3 days ago

How big is the tank/pond/enclosure? 30 gall
Is the tank near a window? yes
Is the tank in a room with a lot of activity? not really

Have you read the Basic Care section? Yes
Have you searched the forums for similar situations? Yes

Is there any other unusual activity/symptoms? [/color]

white spots that look like pimples what do I do?

[iac637]

Can you post a picture of that

[marisa]

How long has your turtle had these white pimples? Are any breaking/oozing anything? A pic of your turtle dry would be very helpful. From what you wrote, it possibly could be a fungus, but a pic would really tell more.

[kwoody]

Here you go but i think it may be a lost cause. I am not sure but he seems to be dead. Maybe he just died we got back from dinner and he is not moving at all, even if we poke at him.

http://voipdesigns.net/Turtle.aspx

Also we have a gold fish and he seems to be discolored. The other turtle seems to be fine but he does not hang out in the water. He likes to bury himself in the bark and hide out. We also have two firebelly frogs in the same tank. The frogs, fish, and older turtle (the one not sick) have been together for quite some time now with out problems. We got this second one about a month ago so the first turtle would have a friend.

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[iac637]

he isn't healthy looking is he moving at all
you need to take him out of the tank and the other animals in there and clean it really really good because whatever he has the others can get

[steve]

I'm thinking that it could be fungus too. It could also be an injury, from a bite for instance. I think you have too much going on in your tank (buries in the bark? toads? larger turtle?)

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[kwoody]

OK well this morning he was dead for sure. The smell was a give away. I don't know what happend. He was fine three days ago. Before i noticed the spots he did seem to be very tired. Lazy sleeping in strange positions. Maybe that was a sign he was sick.

The other turtle we have is doing fine and we have had him for about a year now. He has been a great pet. Steve you had questions about the bark and other animals. I have attached a link to provide you with a better idea of what we have. About 4 or 5 months ago we added two firebelly frogs to the tank. When we did that I dug a hole in the rocks and filled the hole with bark from the pet store. The frogs like to hide in there. In addition to the bark I added coconut shell over the top to protect the froms from the heat. Once I did that the turtle started digging in the bark and hiding. He stays in the bark for days. I get him out every other day or so and put him in the water and during that time i feed him. He eats fine so I don't think he is sick. I do find it strange that he hides all the time. I tried to remove the bark but he just digs in the rocks instead.

http://voipdesigns.net/Turtle.aspx

I cleaned the entire aquarium with bleach and steaming hot water. I washed the pump, filter, wood, food dish, and accessories in the dishwasher. I cleaned the rocks with bleach too. After rinsing everything out very good put the animals back in to the tank one by one. I took all day to do this just to make sure everything was done right. I hope I killed what ever happend to our little guy. He was new so maybe he had this when we got him. He was in a tank with no less than 50 his size. And he was just a little bigger than a quarter.

rest in peace little one.

[marisa]

Sorry to hear about your turtle. I doubt a fungus in itself would cause death, unless the turtle had had it for a good while and bacteria had gotten into his system.

The turtle in the pics is the one that's alive (there's no white pimples on him that I can see)? I see a while shell with some algae on it (which should be wiped off). What's with the white shell---water stains? Has it been a while since the turtle shed?

I'd give the frogs their own habitat, not keep them in with turtles.

[kwoody]

I took down the pics of the sick turtle. The pics up now are of our healthy one. This turtle does not spend time in the water anymore. Is that normal? We are moving at the end of the month and i plan on getting a much bigger tank we are looking at a 100 gal right now. I want to get something that will last the turtle for ever or at least a very long time.

[marisa]

By "not spending time in the water anymore" do you mean all he wants to do is bask? Basking time can vary, but if this behavior is very different than what he usually does, I'd take it as a sign that something could be wrong (as in getting ill). If he was in with the sick turtle he could have caught what the other one had.

In the hopes that this isn't the case, when you cleaned the tank did you change anything around? Is anything different? They can react to changes until they become familar with their new surroundings.

I'd keep an eye on him and if there are any other changes, take him to a vet.

[iac637]

you said that he have never spent much time in the water and that he digs in the coconut shell and hang out there ...... is it kept moist??

[steve]

Items that are cleaned with bleach need to be air dried for 24-48 hrs afterwards. Bleach also needs to be diluted, 2 oz. of bleach to one gallon of water. I think you need to re-evaluate how your tank is setup. I don't see a heater and the basking light is not over his basking area.

Can you take a picture of his shell when it is dry?

[iac637]

there is one if you look at the slideshow he posted it looks like it is covered with a mineral deposit

[kwoody]

the picture I have up with him on the table was taken some time ago. But I know we do have hard water I have to clean the glass all the time.

As far as the heater it is under the rocks in front of the filter. I did not have everything just so when i took the pics. The water is at a steady 85 and the air is about 92 or so during the day. I have two basking 75 watt lamps and one 15 watt UV light. The lights are directly over the drift wood. the humidity is 60% or so.

He does not bask, he used to 3 or 4 months ago. Now he just buries himself in the bark or rocks. I read on this site something that makes me think he might be hibernating. But I pull him out every other day to make sure he eats. When I feed him he is active and eats fine. but when he is done he goes and buries himself again.

[iac637]

I would at least call and talk to a vet about his behavior