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Post Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 8:54 am   Re: New Habitat

Well Notchie is in her new home. Kind of a basic layout in the tank for now with about 8" of water. Mostly so I can move the tank around. She seems to like the lower water level. She can stand anywhere in the tank and raise her head up to breathe. Still not sure how to introduce the water to the tank. By that I mean do in intentionally set up the discharge to make a current in the tank? Do I let the water fall or discharge below the water line? I like the idea of flow towards the drain. Even with a current, in a square tank the corners are pretty calm. I have been toying with using a 1" pipe with maybe 4 discharge points along the bottom end of the tank. It would kind of make a one way current without any noise or splash.
Embarrassing enough, my pump and filter leaks are diminishing. I managed to find an o-ring kit and get it ordered Friday. While playing at home later I noticed that there was an o-ring in the filter. It is a fairly deep groove in black plastic so it blended right in. I went to cancel my order for a new ring and it had already shipped. I might need it anyway. The filter leaked with the old o-ring in. I don't know how long it had been doing that. When it is an outside filter a few drips don't really matter. I got the old ring out and there were some flat spots on it from being squished for a couple years and not being used. The mild lesson here is if you have this type of filter , if you are stowing it for awhile, don't clamp the lid shut. I cleaned, massaged and lubed the ring and at present, no leaks. At least from the filter. The pump had a couple leaks from where its discharge fittings attach. When it was in the old tank it didn't matter. I have it down to where there were only several drips over night.
I am not quite sure where I am going to keep the tank. In the same general location but maybe by a different wall. It is pretty big. It ended up at 4'x9'. That 9 is going to shrink some. That 2' deck is bigger than is needed and is set up to shorten easily. It ends up that the tank doesn't need to be real close to the utility sink or a floor drain. By using the pond filter that has a backflush capability, I can pump the pond almost dry through the filter and just need a discharge tube that hits the tub or a drain.
The pics attached are from the first start up and the basic plumbing. I still need to do something permanent with the lights and think about a cover/top.
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Post Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 11:30 am   Re: New Habitat

That looks great! Could you have something to automatically add water?
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Post Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 12:13 pm   Re: New Habitat

I could put some as simple as a toilet tank valve in. In my last tank the ramp to get to the basking area had to at the right water level for Nothcie to be able to get on it. If the water went down she couldn't drag her 'self' onto the ramp. Now that I have a little more room to play with I hope to make something a little more user friendly for Notchie and something less sensitive to water level. I am sure this has been asked and answered but what is a good water level for a good sized res?
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Post Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 12:40 pm   Re: New Habitat

If the ramp is extended longer than necessary, you will have some flexibility. Also depending on the material, floating docks are supposed to adjust their height along whatever the water level is. Adult RES should not have issues with any water depth, though an underwater level or resting spot is a good idea. Sometimes my RES like to stand on it so they're not floating. Sometimes they like to put one arm onto the side of the basking area ledge just to hang out. Other times they just effortlessly float.
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Post Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 6:23 pm   Re: New Habitat

Nice job! Just a thought,you could add some rustic recycled barn wood on the outside. I think that would look nice. Also, What no waterfall? :-)
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Post Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 10:01 am   Re: New Habitat

I am trying to find the time to finish up the tank. I need to shorten and narrow the platform end to fit in the corner. It is the same corner you can see in an earlier pic of my old tank that is cover with clamps and shelves. All of that needs to come out and get redone. It will fit nice and snug when I am done. I need to get it in place before I install/stack my rocks inside. I don't want to bury Notchie accidentally in an avalanche. I am planning on putting panels on the end and the front just to trim things out
I do have a lot of water flow. Probably around 1000gph. Plenty for the tank. I like having the discharge under water. It is nice a quiet. I do have plenty for a waterfall though. I guess I do need to introduce oxygen somehow. I am not sure that happens with an underwater discharge.
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Post Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 1:07 pm   Re: New Habitat

As long as the surface water it moving around pretty good it is introducing oxygen.
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Post Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 6:14 pm   Re: New Habitat

My filter's discharge is under the water, and it produces a lot of bubbles. So yours should do very well with regard to oxygenation.
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Post Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 11:30 pm   Re: New Habitat

Hey Jeremiah, what kind of filter do you have?
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Post Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 1:12 am   Re: New Habitat

It's not quite as involved as kermath's, but it does the job!

It's a small HDPE drum (I have a 15G and an 18G) that I made as a small upflow barrel filter (like for small koi ponds). From the tank, dirty water is pumped into PVC that goes up-and-over the side of the tank and spins into the bottom of the drum. From there, the water goes through my pads and bio-media to the top of the barrel, where it gets sucked back into the tank by a plastic elbow (still in the barrel, near the top). This elbow is connected to another elbow leading back into the tank by a bulkhead (adapters can be used, too); this second piece of piping ends beneath the water surface. The idea is that when the water on top gets sucked into the outflow, it does so in a way that "flushes" rather than "pours" back into the tank. The result is that tank-bound water is restricted to flowing on one side of the outflow pipe at all times, the result of which is oxygenation/agitation within the outflow and bubble-shooting once the water gets back into the tank.

Finally, since the filter is elevated, I installed a drain into the bottom that is opened/closed by a valve. That way, when I have to take out waste water, I don't lose any prime because I just re-close the valve and let the filter fill back up. I run these filters on both of my tanks, and they're crystal-clear with very little maintenance/PWC's. (I still change out a bucket or two of water weekly). I use the full-blown 55 gallon version on my 300 gallon stock tank, during the summer. During that time, mayflies colonize the media and eat the detritus in the pads as well as algae.

That probably helped very little, so I think I'll just post the link to the site I consulted with (sorry for advertising another forum!) Maybe some DIY members who like ponds could benefit from this.

http://www.thepondforum.com/showthread. ... ond-Filter

P.S.: Sorry for the bunny trail, kermath!
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Post Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 8:35 am   Re: New Habitat

Bunny trails are fun. You never know what you are going to find.
I have no bubbles. With the discharge under water it doesn't even look like the system is running. My final plumbing will incorporate some bubbly feature. I did have a filter on my outside pond like you describe. I used a 100 gallon stock tank and floor scrubbing pads. That is where my tank pump came from. It didn't make a big enough dent in the pond clarity to keep it going. I left the tank buried in the ground. I run a little water from the pond through it and the deer drink out of it. Not sure what I am going to do with my 300 gallon. It is cracked on the bottom but doesn't leak. Beer cooler? Worm farm?
Last night I cleared room for the tank to move. I pulled out some shelving and realized that the high shelving that the lower shelving supported should probably be supported somehow if I was pulling the lower stuff. Tonight should be a little plumbing to condense the footprint of the tank. To make the assembly a little shorter I am going to come up through the horizontal rim of the tank. This will protect the vertical 1.5" discharge pipe and make the platform a little smaller. Drilling a 2" hole isn't technically difficult but with my commitment issues it is hard to cut a hole in something new and shiny.
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Post Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 8:59 pm   Re: New Habitat

Got the plumbing done , but there is always more. I still will tie the drains in to the house plumbing. I put together Notchie's stone house today. There are 3-4 levels with a ramp to the top. It is made from some of the old tank rocks and some of the pond tower rocks. The pond had a bigger tower so with the new bigger tank, I could use the bigger stones. The pics of the stone tower are before the water is up to the top of the tower so you can see how it goes together. I still need to do something with the lighting. Nothcie seems to like her new digs
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Post Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 5:37 am   Re: New Habitat

1 Male Mississippi Map/Mississippi
1 Female RES/Slidy.
1 DBT White Concentric Female/ Lucky
1 DBT Male/ Spots
(Housed in the same tank)

300 gallon indoor stock tank, FX6 & FX5 filters. Mega-Ray 100w UVB bulb.
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