

turtle guy wrote:ive been wanting to build a pond in my backyard but dont know how. if you know how please tell and if you could the overall cost would be?

rsour24 wrote:RR38- you are building more of a top of the line type pond. he doesnt need to go as extreme as you are. there is no need to a bottom drain if he can pump out the water. and as long as he gets a big enough pump filtration should be fine. although he will have to clean much more frequent
RR38 wrote:I dont want to start anything rsour, but I gave him advice on how to build a pond that would need minimal cleaning. If he wants a pond that is going to look pretty and isint going to be a huge headache, he should spend the money and do it right. If he wants something that will need cleaning monthly, and I mean a complete change, then he should go your way.

Marcus.85 wrote:RR38 wrote:I dont want to start anything rsour, but I gave him advice on how to build a pond that would need minimal cleaning. If he wants a pond that is going to look pretty and isint going to be a huge headache, he should spend the money and do it right. If he wants something that will need cleaning monthly, and I mean a complete change, then he should go your way.
I don't have any experience in ponds or pond-building, but why the monthly complete water change? Does it get that dirty?
RR38 wrote:[Yes it can get that dirty. Think of it like this, ponds are basically huge versions of your aquarium you have your turtle (or turtles if your like me) in. If you dont provide enough filtration, what happens? The tank gets dirty. So you have to change the water and clean everything much more often than if you have the proper filtration in place. A skimmer and a filter of the right size will help keep ponds 3' deep and shallower clean. Anything over 3' deep needs a bottom drain to help keep the gunk that accumualtes on the bottom of the pond clean. The bottom drain sucks the nasty gunk into the skimmer, where you can easily clean it out. The skimmer will also help keep the leaves and other stuff off of the surface of the pond. As for filters, unless you want to spend thousands of dollars on a good pond filter, the best (and cheapest) route IMO is a skippy filter. The only drawback to skippy filters is you can only use them up to a certain size pond. Once you get aboue 9 or 10 thousand gallons (which is a huge pond) you need to look at other options for a filter. I linked a site on how to make a skippy in a earlier post in this topic.

Marcus.85 wrote:RR38 wrote:[Yes it can get that dirty. Think of it like this, ponds are basically huge versions of your aquarium you have your turtle (or turtles if your like me) in. If you dont provide enough filtration, what happens? The tank gets dirty. So you have to change the water and clean everything much more often than if you have the proper filtration in place. A skimmer and a filter of the right size will help keep ponds 3' deep and shallower clean. Anything over 3' deep needs a bottom drain to help keep the gunk that accumualtes on the bottom of the pond clean. The bottom drain sucks the nasty gunk into the skimmer, where you can easily clean it out. The skimmer will also help keep the leaves and other stuff off of the surface of the pond. As for filters, unless you want to spend thousands of dollars on a good pond filter, the best (and cheapest) route IMO is a skippy filter. The only drawback to skippy filters is you can only use them up to a certain size pond. Once you get aboue 9 or 10 thousand gallons (which is a huge pond) you need to look at other options for a filter. I linked a site on how to make a skippy in a earlier post in this topic.
Thanks. Plus, now that i think of it, a pond can easily be overtaken by algae, since it's hit by sunlight, which his their favorite.
Is it possible to have a pond without any filtration? I guess it would have to be huge, more like a small lake, in order to keep the water condition in balance.
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