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Post Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 10:55 am   Re: Purigen Question

I soak mine in a over the counter chlorine remover. Hope it's o.k.. I just know it the packets stink pretty bad even after being regenerated.
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Post Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 10:28 am   Re: Purigen Question

My fx5. Is new and Bio is not established yet. I'm not sure how good this stuff works. Once my filter is established I will remove it and see if there is a difference. I must say right now my water is crystal clear with 2packs in my filter.
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Post Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 6:09 pm   Re: Purigen Question

Kansasslider wrote:
twoam wrote:
VeipaCray wrote:From their website:

Regeneration: Soak in a 1:1 bleach:water solution for 24 hours in a non-metalic container in a well ventilated area and away from children. Rinse well, then soak for 8 hours with a solution containing 2 tablespoons of ChlorGuard™, Prime®, or equivalent dechlorinator per cup of water. Rinse well. Original color and full activity should now be restored and Purigen® is ready for reuse. Caution: some slime coat products may permanently foul Purigen® and render regeneration difficult. Do not reuse if odor of chlorine is detectable. In case of doubt, soak beads in small quantity of water and test for residual chlorine with a chlorine test kit.


That's exactly my point the changed the directions for only one reason. Bleach is really high in PH.
The purigen I recently purchased had the directions above with this stuck in the middle of them...."For freshwater use, soak for 4 hours with a solution containing 1 TBSP of buffer per cup of water (Discus Buffer, Neutral Regulator)".

These directions confused me to. It is time to switch bags and regenerate the spare and still not sure which method to use.

Thanks for all the advice on media VeipaCray. I set the filter up according to the media thread and your advice on carbon, purigen, algae control and water conditioners (not using them). Water is so crystal clear that I actually hate to take some out for a cleaning/partial water change. Clarence thanks you also :)



Kansalider, you kind of copied, pasted and mixed my quote and yours together. Weird. I can see now why it is so difficult to get any advice off this site. Its like pulling teeth. I can promise you I am not an imposter and all I want is the best for Clarence. If anyone can disreguard this person putting my words in his quote and go back to my original question and answer it, I would be hugely appreciative. Thank you so much :)
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Post Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:16 pm   Re: Purigen Question

I'm not going to soak in buffer because I have a firm control on my tanks Ph right at 7.6. The only thing, chemical I use is Neutral Regulator "Buffer/ Chlorine Remover" To make this clear its the only chemical I Put directly in the tank water. IT controls PH or at least it claims to keep it at 7.0 but I have never had a test show less than 7.6. I also use Outbreak but that's not a chemical.
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Post Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 9:12 am   Re: Purigen Question

Just curious...

If you don't use that neutral regulator, does your PH fluctuate a lot?
What is the PH of your tap water?
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Post Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 9:19 am   Re: Purigen Question

twoam wrote:Kansalider, you kind of copied, pasted and mixed my quote and yours together. Weird. I can see now why it is so difficult to get any advice off this site. Its like pulling teeth. I can promise you I am not an imposter and all I want is the best for Clarence. If anyone can disreguard this person putting my words in his quote and go back to my original question and answer it, I would be hugely appreciative. Thank you so much :)



Sorry you find this forum troublesome. Seachem has excellent customer service. You might want to give them a call and ask your questions directly to the manufacturer. My experience with Seachem has been that they will share any info about product changes.

I'll also call them and ask the same question. Hopefully between the two of us, we can get an answer.
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Post Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 2:52 pm   Re: Purigen Question

VeipaCray wrote:
twoam wrote:Kansalider, you kind of copied, pasted and mixed my quote and yours together. Weird. I can see now why it is so difficult to get any advice off this site. Its like pulling teeth. I can promise you I am not an imposter and all I want is the best for Clarence. If anyone can disreguard this person putting my words in his quote and go back to my original question and answer it, I would be hugely appreciative. Thank you so much :)



Sorry you find this forum troublesome. Seachem has excellent customer service. You might want to give them a call and ask your questions directly to the manufacturer. My experience with Seachem has been that they will share any info about product changes.

I'll also call them and ask the same question. Hopefully between the two of us, we can get an answer.


I do not find this site troublesome at all. It has been extremely helpul. A Godsend. I did not like someone putting part of my quote in theirs when it appeared to me that they were being argumentitive, which would then not surprise me if people did not want to respond. Could not blame them one bit. I do not want to be assocciated with that. I aprreciate all and any help you and others have given me.
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Post Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 12:10 pm   Re: Purigen Question

Anyway, I contacted them via their website. Here is their response: Thank you for your question and for using Seachem products. There has been a recent change in the instructions, removing the buffering step. There is no need to buffer the Purigen after regeneration. Just be sure to rinse it well after soaking it in the bleach. This will prevent any change in pH when it is added back to your aquarium. Please let us know if you have any additional questions.
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Post Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 12:31 pm   Re: Purigen Question

Thanks for following up and posting this.
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Post Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:53 pm   Re: Purigen Question

Forgot about this thread but here is an update. I still use purigen but no longer use prime. I use neutral regulator instead. The reason is because when I use prime it comes out brown and stinks. Now it comes out nice and clean. I contacted seachem and they said using neutral regulator instead of prime is fine. As for the post before mine not veipacray but the one before had me confused. I have to wonder if their R&D Department knows what they are doing? Vepicray if you don't mind me asking what do you do or better yet NOT DO! To your water ? My tap water is 8.5 sorry I didn't get around to letting you know that sooner.I would like to use no chemicals. thank you.
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Post Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:51 pm   Re: Purigen Question

so is soaking in bleach o.k? That's all I do and then just rinse it out good.
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Post Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 8:31 am   Re: Purigen Question

Yes you need to soak in bleach. I'm not sure why you need to soak it in chlorine remover but my guess is that its because bleach has a high level of chlorine. The bleach I use says it contains 7.68% chlorine. I'm not sure your removing the chlorine by just rinsing in water?Maybe someone else can explain this better.
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Post Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 10:26 am   Re: Purigen Question

Well,I had really hoped someone would chime in on this.Is just useing bleach then rinsing in water ok?
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Post Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 1:49 pm   Re: Purigen Question

It has worked for me. Skimmer shows no ill effects = : >
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Post Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 3:33 pm   Re: Purigen Question

Im pretty sure you should use some type of chlorine remover.I dont own a chlorine test kit or i could do some testing. Im in the process of doing some other tests just to see what the ammonia, ph, levels are in regenerated purigen. After i regenerate it useing one cup distilled water and 1tbs neutral regulator for 4 hrs I then put it in a small zip lock bag with a small amount of distilled water.This water is what im useing for testing. After letting it sit for a while 3 days or longer I have found this,ammonia 0 ppm ph 6.4. Next time i will test just soaking in bleach and rinsing in water. Distilled water tests at 0 ppm ammonia and 6.0 or lower ph.
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