Other Turtle Discussion :: DOMESTIC PET TURTLE MARKET ACCESS ACT

[theguys]

All sentient beings are to be repected - they are living miracles of life. They are not for the pure pleasure of children's momentary desire to have one. They will die if stuck in one of those miserable little plastic bowls with a palm tree in the middle. They will die from lack of food, proper lighting and fetid conditions. Is this how to treat something just because it's "cute". It is the "disposable" aspect of these animals that is their greatest threat. No one would buy a dog, cat of even fish without some thought. But turtles are a minimum investment from the get go - usually a spur of the moment , impulse purchase. If people knew that an initial investment of $ 100 is only the beginning, they would think twice. How can pet shop owners sell animals they know will probably be disposed of or die within a very short time? Is that really taking care of life on earth?

[xsavingsaturdayx]

I have heard of pet stores that refuse to sell feeder rodents or fish, just because they feel that it is "wrong".

People get realy riled up about goldfish too, ive been to a couple of fish forums where people go on and on about how people treat fish (mostly goldfish) like crap.

[jenaero]

That is true, i have heard of pet stores that refuse to sell feeder rodents or fish, just because they feel that it is "wrong".

Tell me about it. I was at Paulmac's (not sure if it's just a canadian chain or not) and I asked the kid to take the back hoppy legs off the crickets for me and he just about fainted. He did it, but he said he'll never do it again and he felt terrible..they do sell feeder fish but not feeder mice. His reaction has me tempted to go in next time and ask for a feeder kitten..hehe

[pumpkinsherbet]

His reaction has me tempted to go in next time and ask for a feeder kitten..hehe

lol that is so wrong.

[Turtle addict]

Everyone needs to know their laws for their state.

Here in Florida a bill has been proposed to stop the sales of red ears all together. Now we are being overrun with res in our lakes from releases but stopping the sales of them may not be the best thing. To own a res we would need to have permits, the turtles will have to be micro chipped, and we would pay any where between $20-$100 a year per red ear to keep them.

While this may seem like a good thing, think about this...with this being only on res people will buy other species more, next it would be the yellow belly and maps most common in stores...those would become a release issue and then those would be added to the permits, then what species would be next? How about tort's....in a few years that may be all you can have here without permits and then those would be released.

Once one law is passed it's VERY easy the next one passed, and those in other states...once one state does it then the next will. The laws have been passed already on the nile monitor, and 5 snakes....I know two of which are burmese pythons and the brown retic...to have those here you have to have a permit, free now but by next Feb you can go to jail for not having them and the price will not be free to get a permit.

And that woman in the link....Asia doesn't need our turtles? I have proof...on another site I am on there is a store and we get weekly mail from people in Aisa wanting to buy 500 res or soft shells. Also as friends with a few people here in Florida I know there are still shipments of hundreds of turtles going out of our airports DAILY to Japan. When customs can intervene they do but alot of our turtles go over there not for pets.

[Blue Flamingo]

Here in Colorado we don’t have a China Town were hundreds of baby RES are sold and we don’t have random shady-street people selling them on the streets. However, we do have the occasional Oriental shop in the mall but in all my 20 years on Earth and in Colorado I’ve only seen ONE store that sold any babies and it was only the one occasion. They were sold in tiny plastic containers two turts for 20 bucks with some food, no instructions of what to do with it once you got it home, and the lady selling them didn’t even know what kind of turtles they were. I have no doubt in my mind that most of those turts are dead or that they are living in horrible conditions. So I think if this bill is passed Ill start seeing tons more RES's in these kinds of stores and in pet shops for dirt-cheap prices. I’m sorry if this sound snippy but I thought this web site was called RedEarSlider.com obviously this is what people are interested in and what they are going to talk about, mistreatment, new bills, est. They’re not going to start talking about world crisis, save the whales, save the teddy bear hamsters, and gold fish. If you want to see people talking about gold fish then go here http://www.goldfishparadise.com/forum/phpBB2/index.php .I also saw something about it being illegal to have gold fish in a death bowl on something while I was looking up that other site, so if you do a little research you can find out about these kinds of things. RES are much different then a goldfish and cricket (not saying there more important) if you release a couple gold fish out in the wild are they going to endanger the ecosystem of that area and the same with crickets and hamsters hmmmmm?