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Taking care of your turtle's overall health.

Post Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 12:38 am   Reccomendations?

This board is awesome but im really needing more information on turtles and shedding. When they do it, how often, what to look for. What can i do to encourage shedding. I have a 5 yr old res i got from someone they said we needed to Shuck the turtle never heard that on here at all. And honestly he has an ugly shell its very dull looking has some white spots on it and im wondering if its just never had the chance to shed properly. Anyone know of a detailed book that i might be able to get. We went to the vet a few weeks ago and he didnt say anything about the shell lookng bad or anything i just dont quite understand the whole shedding process. He doesnt seem to be basking alot either and he has a dock that gets completly dry so not sure if him not basking to much is an issue. I have tried to take pics of him but they dont come out great. I know i have asked all this before and i apologize if its redundant.
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Post Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 1:03 am   

Lets see those pictures anyways.. Its better than nothing.

For proper shedding, make sure you have a UVB bulb. You can feed them vegetables that have vitamin E in them to accelerate the shedding process.

Shedding can take months for a turtle to have a complete shed. Patience is the key also.

What temperature is the basking area and what is the temp of the water? There should be about a ten degree difference between the basking area and the water.


And there is nothing wrong with asking questions when you dont understand something.
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Post Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 1:04 am   

UVB?
Cuttlebone?
Vitamin E foods?
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Post Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 2:35 am   

When turtles shed, what comes off is the top, thin layer of shell - the sections are called scutes. When the shell is healthy, the scute that comes off is translucent and usually the whole section comes off in one piece. When the shell is not 100% healthy, the scute will flake off. Sometimes scutes that should come off don't, and then we say they are retained. Retained scutes can pile up in layers. The shell underneath a scute that has shed should be healthy looking.

When a scute is ready to shed, it usually gets a dull, whitish look. When the turtle is underwater, you see metalic or coppery glints. This is air trapped underneath the loose scute. Also, when the turtle is out of the water, if you press gently on a scute that's about to come off, you'll see water ooze out around the edge. Scutes will start to lift around the edge when they get close to shedding.

It's best not to pull off a loose scute ("shuck a turtle"). If you leave it alone, it should fall off on its own when it's ready. If you have to tug to get a scute off, that means it's still attached to the underlying shell, and it's not ready to come off. It can damage the shell to pull off scutes prematurely. Sounds like that's happened to the turtle you just got.

Retained scutes are a common problem. Like I said, you can see the layers piled up when scutes don't shed like they should. The big danger is that if water gets trapped under a loose scute, it can become a breeding ground for bacteria and fungus, and a serious infection can result.

To help scutes shed, you can feed turtles small amounts of foods containing vitamin e. Examples are steamed sweet potato, blueberries, tomato, turnip greens and apple peel. A serving a week from this list will help a turtle to shed.

It's also important for turtle shell and bone health that they get plenty of calcium. The recommended source is cuttlebone. You can get cuttlebones in the bird section of a pet store. They are cheap and will last a long time. Just leave a piece or two in the tank for the turtle to nibble on, after removing the clear, plastic-like backing that's just under the surface of one side of the cuttlebone. Some turtles prefer their cuttlebone attached to the wall of the tank with a veggie clip.

In order for a turtle to metabolize the calcium they eat, they need to bask under UVB light. UVB is provided by special light bulbs you get from pet stores or on-line pet supply places. For a specific recommendation on a UVB bulb, we'd need to know the size of your aquarium - some bulbs are appropriate for small tanks, others for large tanks.

Basking on a completely dry surface is a huge thing for turtle health. Lots of bad things will happen if they don't bask frequently and get to dry out thoroughly. To motivate a turtle to bask, the basking area needs to be warmer than the water - turtles are heat seekers. You need a heat producing light bulb to generate the warmth that's needed. Again, we'd need to know the size of your setup to make an informed recommendation on the best way to provide heat for the basking area.

And photos of your turt and setup would be most helpful. :D
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Post Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 10:39 am   

One member had luck using a drop or two of vitamin E oil on the turtles food for a few weeks. It's tricky, and they shouldn't have much oil, if any. But you could try soaking a few pellets each day in some vitamin E (http://www.redearslider.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=19699), just don't overdo it for too long.
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Post Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 1:41 pm   

Thanks for all the responses decided to get the flu so wasnt able to come back right away. Hope this pic is clear enough. You can see the white spots pretty good i think. Right now he is in a 55 gal tank im getting him a 75 gal this week i know he needs a 90 but i cant afford that right now. Plus hubby is going to try and figure out how to build him a up top basking area that way we can give him more water. Im not sure if his basking light is a uvb its what they gave us an im going to say no considering they didnt have uva light and i had to go get that after reading these boards. Im unusre wht the temp of the basking area is his tank is at 76 right now. He doesnt bask alot so not sure if thats a problem or not. I made Jello shots and he loves tho so hes getting his vegies everyday. I bought the cuttlebone about a month ago after reading that on here too so hes ok with that. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated just wanna make sure hes thriving and doing well
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Post Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 1:19 am   

Can you describe the texture of those spots? Are they recessed? Your turtle also looks like a female... :)
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Post Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 12:03 pm   

No they arent recessed or soft he seems to be shedding a bit more then he was too which is good. And i went and bought him a 75 gal tank yesterday. Oh yeah hes a boy..lol i made sure when i took him to the vet. Hes actually basking today which is a plus. Hubby is trying to figure out how to make him an above the tank basking area.


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