General Care Discussion :: R.I.P Lot.

Taking care of your turtle's overall health.

Post Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 7:33 am   R.I.P Lot.

done. i do what ever i can.
Its done.
I do the first aid.
Lot died because of drowning.
i bring to vetenarian.
and doctor give them oxygen. but still.
he wont woke up.
until doctor press his hand, press his head, press anything, open his mouth.
Then... we found nothing.

I do what ever i can.
its really make me feels like.. guilty.. sometimes..
but..

Could you please tell me.. WHY IS THIS TURTLE DROWNING?
HE IS NOT FAT. BUT HOW? WHY??

Drowning
If your turtle has drowned, it may be unconscious and still alive. Do not turn your RES upside down because that may cause whatever remaining oxygen to escape. Do not attempt to force your RES to move or place it back into the in water.

The following information is from:

First Aid for Drowned Turtle
Copyright by Valerie Haecky

This document may be freely distributed for non-profit use, provided this notice is included.

The following information is compiled from a variety of articles in various newsletters. I have tried this myself, too.

Both water turtles and box turtles can drown. Even a drowned turtle that looks quite dead might just be waiting for you to help it get its breath back. Remember that turtles can be without oxygen for a long time, especially in cool water, before the damage is irreversible.

First and foremost: NEVER TURN THE TURTLE/TORTOISE ON ITS BACK. Turning it on his back might remove the little airspace still left in the lungs.

1. Grasp the turtle's head behind the ears (base of skull) and extend the neck completely.
2. Turn it head-down/tail up and open its mouth. Usually, some water will flow or drip out at this point. Wait until the dripping stops.
3. Place the turtle (belly down) on a flat surface with its neck extended. Stand in front of the turtle.
4. Straighten his front legs and pull them straight toward you as far as they will go.
5. Keeping the legs straight, push them in as far as they will go. Do not let the legs bend at the elbows.
6. Continue pulling and pushing until water stops coming out.


Now it's time to take your turtle to the veterinarian. The veterinarian will insert a tube and start providing the turtle with pure oxygen. He may give a respiratory stimulant and a drug that will help the turtle excrete the water accumulated in its tissue. After this, the turtle will probably regain consciousness and start moving. Since some turtles develop pneumonia after drowning, the veterinarian will most likely recommend a course of antibiotics.

A note on mouth-to-mouth (or straw to mouth) breathing. I've seen it described in one place. I don't know whether it works, and I don't know whether the risk of blowing in too hard and damaging the lungs is worth it. The above instructions are proven to work in many cases.

A note on baby turtles: The smaller the turtle, the harder it is to help the animal, simply because of its small size.


Just give me this information. it is good.. for me.. but there is nothing what we can do.
We people live together same earth. but different country
You lucky there have a good vetenarian.
have supplies, weapon.
But here.. such a shame.. i really..
doesnt accept for his died.
i really.. dont know what to do.
because.. there is no weapon like.. supplies oxygen. that have pump. or what ever it is. bla bla bla antibiotic.

But steve can you please.. insert..
Why turtle can drown?
example..
this is just an example allright..
"if you give him pellet everyday... he will be fat.. than can't swim.. and then goes drown" thats it. thats the example.

how turtle can drown? why? because of what? thats it.

Sorry if.. my word is hurt your heart.
but no offense. i just telling what im supposed to tell.

So that Lot life.. is become zero to hero.
thats it. Im done

Lot. 6/4/2010 (DD/MM/YYYY)
At 1:35 PM (GMT +7)
R.I.P

Guys. Thanks you have wasting time read this topic.
Thank you to sinister even only 1 reply.
But he tell what he supposed to tell.
Thanks guys for you support.
I'm Done.

There are 8 turtles left.

Thanks for noobempty. :)
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Post Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 11:47 am   

Sorry to hear about your friend. It is not your fault, you did what you could do, remember that most baby turtles die in the wild and only a few survive. it is life and it is nature. There is nothing you can do about it now and it doesn't matter what explanation anyone gives you , it isn't going to make it a bit better.
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Post Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 2:40 pm   

Oh sweetie, I'm sorry for your loss!

Drowning happens in all animals/birds/etc. Drowning isn't about how much water is around an animal, hence how an aquatic turtle can drown. It is moreso about water getting into the lungs, which causes the lungs to stop working. Since you research a lot on the internet, check out what happens when a human drowns. It is similar in animals.

Basically, something may have obstructed your turtle's airway and caused water to seep in. It's not really something you can prevent or stop. Maybe he had an RI that you didn't know about and mucus kept his airway open underwater. Or he drowned in mucus. Or a pebble/bit of food/cuttlebone got stuck. Or a million other things.

We (any human or animal) weren't meant to live forever. We all have to go back to the earth eventually. Just take care of your other turtles and cherish the memories, don't blame yourself for anything. We've all lost pets and felt responsible, but you just have to move on. Remember, he had a better life with you than he would have had with most people!
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Post Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 5:20 pm   

you know. you are the one. that touch my heart. lol
Thanks gremlin.
i still cant sleep. lol
yea maybe food. omg.
i really... trauma =.=

Thanks for anything gremlin.
You know when i was newbie. you were the first one who reply my topic.
and now too. i mean... you are smart. lol. Bless You.

anway. thanks.
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Post Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 5:24 pm   

sorry marissa. i messed it up. :(
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Post Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 5:28 pm   

jay2487 wrote:Sorry to hear about your friend. It is not your fault, you did what you could do, remember that most baby turtles die in the wild and only a few survive. it is life and it is nature. There is nothing you can do about it now and it doesn't matter what explanation anyone gives you , it isn't going to make it a bit better.


oh yea i forgetting you. :wink:
anyway. yea.

Live.. Dead.. so that earth can live along.
here i love this one.. i mean this quote..
The ammount of moisture on Earth has not changed. The water the dinosaurs drank millions of years ago is the same water that falls as rain today. BUT WILL THERE BE ENOUGH FOR A MORE CROWDED WORLD?


hello.. we need justice here :D lol

yea, thanks dude. :)
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Post Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 7:13 pm   

If you're apologizing to me, there's really no need to. I'm very sorry for your loss. :(
"You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed." -Antoine de Saint Exupery-
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