General Care Discussion :: New owner to a res. Please help :)

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Post Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 3:09 pm   New owner to a res. Please help :)

My nephew went in to the Navy and left me his res. He had it for 2 years. After reading about my new res I found out that the way he has been kept was not the best way :( He has been in roon temp water and no basking light. However seems very healthy. I desided ill need to get a basking light and a water heater but, what worries me will I hurt him by changing what he is used to? And whats the most important the basking light or water heater? I want to do the right thing for the little guy :)
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Post Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 3:37 pm   

Welcome! It's good you're doing your research.
If you haven't already, skim through the main site (www.redearslider.com), and that might answer a lot of the questions you have.

Changing things for the better will only make him better, so no worries about that.

Basking light and heater are both essential elements for a proper RES setup, but if I had to pick one over the other, I would say water heater.
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Post Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 3:43 pm   

Welcome. If he's not been living in the best of conditions, I wouldn't worry about changing what he's used to---it can only help him by making things better.

You didn't indicate where you're from (and what the climate is like), but I wouldn't make the water heater the priority if you have to chose between that and lighting. If your RES is used to room temp water, he should be OK with it, assuming you don't use AC to the extreme (and if summer is coming, the water will only get warmer, with keeping the water temp down becoming more of a concern). It would be good to get a water heater for the fall/winter, when the temp cools.

Did he bask without a heat source? Actually, for a basking light, you can just use an incandescent light bulb for the heat source. What you should get, however, is a UVB light; position both above the basking area so he can bask with maximum benefit.

What is the rest of the set-up like? Is there filtration?
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Post Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 5:16 pm   

Thank You.. I live in Jersey so it's soon to be summer here.. My Res is in a plastic like tank and it only hold a few gallons of water. He does bask and what I did do was turn my lamp on its side for the heat lol it was the only thing I could think of for a fast fix at this time.. I must say too he loves it. he spends about 4 hrs under that light.. I plan on getting this week a 40 gallon tank plus now the heater.. Also my nephew only fed him once a day but when I read the bottle it said feed twice a day. He only eats pellets but today I fed him carrots...
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Post Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 5:29 pm   

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This is my RES that we are talking about :)
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Post Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 5:46 pm   

Sorry I didnt answer there is no filtration I change the water every 2 day..
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Post Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 6:27 pm   

Nice-looking RES, especially for living in less than adequate conditions. (Are those whitish areas on top scutes that are starting to come off?)

A shot of the tail showing the underside would be a better indicator, but, if the turtle is at least 2 years old, I'm going to assume that with those nails, "he" is really a "she."

I can't tell how big she is (you measure straight from the scute behind the neck down the spine to the ones above the tail without including the curve of the shell), but she must be around 4 inches? (A 40-gallon tank would ideally be good for a 4-inch turtle; a guide is to allow 10 gallons of tank for each inch of shell.) If you're looking at a 40-gallon tank, consider a 40-gallon breeder---it allows more horizontal room for swimming. But, I have to say that going bigger would be even better to accomodate future growth.

Now that I know you're getting a bigger tank, I'm going to change what I said above---if it were me, a filter would be my top priority. Look at some of the threads on the forum to get an idea of what people are using. Unless you're a glutton for punishment, you don't want to be changing water all the time.

Even if you get a heater, your RES will need a UVB light in addition to that lightbulb which is providing basking heat.

Before you rely on salespeople to tell you what should be purchased, it really would be good to do a little reading on the site and forums to get a good idea of what your RES needs.

BTW, of all the things your nephew didn't do for him---he did one thing right and that was not to overfeed him. I don't know what pellets you're using, but the instructions on invariably all pellet containers exaggerate how much to feed. The standard guide for feeding pellets is up to a year feed daily (unless growth is noticeably excessive), after a year every other day. The portion size would be an amount that would fit into the head (don't include the neck) if it were empty.

Did she eat the carrots? If so, great. Start offering other types of vegetation (look at the list in the feeding forum on what's good to give). Dandelion greens and red leaf lettuce are good.She can be offered some type of appropriate veggie/plant matter daily, even on the days she gets pellets. She can have the occasional treat (a bit of shrimp, and earthworm, etc. as well. A decent secondary calcium supplement is cuttlebone (same stuff that is put into bird cages).

They do require an initial investment if they're going to be cared for right, but the result (a healthy, alert RES) is worth it.
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Post Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 6:55 pm   

Kar-i If you are getting a 40 gallon tank I doubt you will be changing the water every two days. You will need to get a filter pump that pumps at least 5 times the size of the tank. The turtle rules of the road is 10 gallons per inch of turtle, temp should be 75 to 79 depending on size, lighting should have uvb with other lighting. Good luck.
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Post Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 7:38 pm   

marisa, when you asked me about (whitish areas on top scutes that are starting to come off?) If I'm right about what you mean.. Before I started putting the light down for him he looked like he was peeling now thats all starting to go away and it's floating in the top of the tank..
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Post Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 7:41 pm   

Scutes wouldn't float. What you're describing actually sounds more like skin peeling (which also happens).
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Post Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 7:47 pm   

LOL ok then what are scutes?
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Post Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 7:49 pm   

Image this is a full shot :) thank you all for the help...
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Post Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 6:31 pm   

The scutes are the individual plates that make up the carapace (top shell) and plastron (bottom shell). In the new pic, that area doesn't look like it's standing up as much. It does look like there's a bit of skin shedding going on.

Yes, you do have a female RES. :D
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