General Care Discussion :: Pyramiding

[joem1481]

WHat is pyramiding and what does it look like if possibel can you send pictures to me

[cam722]

Here is plenty of information for you to read ...

http://www.redearslider.com/forum/searc ... de=results

[BROOKLYN]

Here is plenty of information for you to read ...

http://www.redearslider.com/forum/searc ... de=results

You shouldn't spoil him Carol. You should just ignore Joem's threads. You have told Joem many times to search before posting repeatedly ask (answered) questions. I, as well, have told Joems about this in a few occassions. I'm starting to think Joems just don't care about others when it comes to the constant spamming of repeated (asked) questions. I suggest a temporarily ban from Joems posting.

[Ann]

Excuse me BROOKLYN, but what's a forum for if not to ask questions, get answers, and help new and advanced turtle owners in caring for their pet turtles? I have been lurking around but not posting for this very reason - now that I know if I have a simple basic question to ask, I'd get flame for asking it. From what I see, Joem is not asking the same questions over and over again - s/he is asking basic simple questions. So I suggest you get off your high end, pull your nose from the air and that stick out of your [---] and realize what a forum is all about. We ALL have started off as new owners at some time - no one was born a pro. Sure, there are websties out there with answers to these basic questions, but the internet is very contradictory and at times very false and milseading so users prefer to get advice from experienced owners rather than from an uncredited website. Also I do not think you necessarily know the meaning of "spamming". What Joem is doing is certainly not spamming. If he didn't care about his turtles he wouldn't ask questions, simple as that. I am in disgust that you would even suggest to ban Joem from posting because he , with the utmost good intent, is trying to provide better care and understanding of his pet.

[BROOKLYN]

I'm sorry if you (Ann) took my previous post as a mean intention to get him banned from anything. I, as well, don't doubt Joem for caring about the turtles Joem is raising. However, like any forum, they are rules and regulations. These rules and regulations are there to ensure the best possible experience members & guest can/will have. I know exactly what forums are based on and you are correct that many forums are set-up to form a bondable community among to all members. However, like you even stated before, these are "basic questions" which have/was answered numerous times. A simple search button and typing a keyword will get a lot of post that have answers that many of Joem needs to know about. This has not been the first time, or the second, the third, and so on that Joem have done this. Joem was also informed and acknowledge about this including the feature of "Private Messaging". My intentions are not to attack any individual new/old to the forum whatsoever. If you have searched many of my post, you will realize many of my posts posted are all intended to help the OP. Like you Ann, I was also new before (and still learning) and I also am/was concerned about raising my turtles. I spent numerous hours going after threads and threads to look for answers (like many other members) I needed and that was answered. Why can't Joem do the same? There are many members from all around the world and not all have a fast broadband connection. By posting repeatedly asked questions, it isn't fair for them neither during the page loading process (non-emergency or emergency). Many forums have this issue of limited bandwidth and I'm sure that Turtle Talk is no different. That is also why many forums/websites have down/slow times because of this. That is why I still believe that Joem should be temporarily banned for posting only. As for the meaning of spamming, it has become a very non-universal definition these days. It is no longer related to e-mail messages. It has evolved to forums, games, or websites. By constantly posting questions that has been answered before is no different from constantly posting up the same information or e-mails to get attention.

[cam722]

Ann: Since you are new here, you're not aware of any ongoing problems. Yes, we do answer questions but we aren't a 24/7 help line, it's more like a Buffet, there are plenty of places on this site to answer questions if you bother to take the time to look for them. We seem to have an influx of very lazy young users. We've told them repeatedly to do some searching as most of the questions have been asked multiple times and answered. We've answered the same questions for the same person time and again. Needless to day it gets extremely frustrating... There are also rules for posting which many ignore. Some people have had multiple post deleted because they keep asking the same questions over and over without reading the replies. This was your first post?? Not exactly how I'd want to start out but hey, that's just me

Brooklyn: yeah I know, enabling .. But heck at least now he can see how the search function works and hopefully will read all those posts and find out some valuable information that won't have to be typed out

[steve]

Although I do not think it is appropriate to discuss about forum policies in this topic, I would like to bring up that certain (younger) people violate age requirements, cross-post (posting the same topic in multiple areas - often without changing a word), bump their posts up and post the same topic over and over (while not following up on their previous similar topic). In a particular case, one user repeatedly asked for help about the same topic at least 6 times. The result was a dead slider and I am 100% positive that they did not follow the given recommendations and suggestions.

On every page where someone can post, this is stated: PLEASE READ: Before you post any topic, question or response, make sure you have read the Posting rules & guides page. Questions are frequently repeated and answered and we request you to search before you post.
This is stated on the home page before a user is registered / logged in: To register, you must be above the age of 13, read and understand the forum rules and know how to use the search function.

We have been very forgiving to violators of these rules with only passive and private warnings. I have been reluctant to enable stricter punishment because I do not want to cut-off potential help for a RES but it is evident that there needs to be changes in the near future.

[ellman605]

yea, i agree, people need to stop cutting slack and give more punishments, cause if you dont go strict, everyone wont listen, and there will be more spamming (like this) and more chaos...

hmmm, i'm 13.6, thats older than 13

[joem1481]

Ok first off you guys seriously need a hobby. Second I am not a young kid i am a 34 year old firefighter with another job a house and many other things going on not that i have to justify anything to you. If i wanted to research for hours i would i dont so i just ask the question and check back when i have time. This turtle was supposed to be a fun thing. Also i did listen to everyone's advice and it still died, maybe from being shipped i dont know but i would love to know how you know i did not follow the advice what you came over and checked on it. Anyone that is getting all mad needs to relax it is just a forum... a place for people to discuss things. The fact that you get all heated over someone asking questions just shows how much of an idiot you are. I know to you full time forum people i am annoying but to me they are questions that need to be answered. I am going to go now because i have other things t do then sit on this stupid forum arguing with some loser about forum rules and reguations. Oh and i know the forum police are going to block me from posting......oh no what will i do....lol. So ridiculous.

[steve]

Violating forum rules is not ridiculous. If you don't wish to follow the policies of this forum, then you don't have to be here. People here take the care of their turtles seriously and many do their best to inform and educate others.

What is it about the forum rules you are finding difficult to understand?

[joem1481]

listen i ask a question and you tell me to research it myself. If I wanted to read the opinion of one person i wn of many. What part of what i am saying dont you understand.

[ellman605]

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Tu ... gle+Search

it took me 5 seconds to do that...its quicker to do that then to keep re-posting over and over.

and the part i'm not understanding is: One person i wn of many? whats that?

The point of a forum is to get help, and we have helped, and helped, and helped..it just gets rediculous reading and answering the SAME THING we have answered 100s of times.
Is it seriously to hard to go to google and type "Red Ear Slider Pyramiding" or "Turtle Pyramiding" i mean seriously, come on..