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Post Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 4:52 pm   Taxonomy of the Trachemys

Sorry this was the only forum I felt would be appropriate for this topic. Steve, maybe this could start a new forum? So onto the topic at hand. I have been doing some off and on research of the taxonomy of the Rio Grande and have ran into some contraversy. With the confusion of the classification of the Trachemys species, I have been back and forth about what class the Rio Grande really falls under. First is it a subspecies of the common red ear slider? Second is it a Big Bend Slider? Or is it just a crossbreed of the two? Scientifically speaking, I'm not to sure anyone really knows what they are. When I google Rio Grande I get Trachemys Scripta Elegans( Common Red Ear Slider), which is in Texas and then also the Trachemys Gaigeae( Big Bend Slider), also in Texas. I'm curious, are these two species different from the Rio or are the Rio's a result of crossbreeding that would result in the Rio Grande Slider? I'm becoming more and more intrugued by the classification of these species, and the fact that there is alot of different ones in the Trachemys taxonomy. Is there any researchers on this forum that could put their two cents in this discussion? I would be excited to hear what you would have to say about the classifications of the Trachemys Taxonomy. I guess my biggest concern here is what do we really call our turtles?
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Post Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 12:54 am   Re: Taxonomy of the Trachemys

I think you've pretty much covered all sides of the issue. Most frequent opinion makes it seem like a variation of our common red ear slider. Personally, I think it should get it's own subspecies since they originate from a specific region.
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Post Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:12 pm   Re: Taxonomy of the Trachemys

Yeah Steve! I totally agree! There is such a confusion to this topic
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Post Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:24 am   Re: Taxonomy of the Trachemys

Is your icon photo ur Rio?? Can you post some pics of him/her plz I'm interested I think my turtley is a Cumberland but I'm still not for sure id love to see some other slider photos to compare mainly the belly and the ears
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Post Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 2:05 pm   Re: Taxonomy of the Trachemys

I have some in the photo gallery I posted last week. His name is Toku. You can see him there;)
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Post Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 12:38 pm   Re: Taxonomy of the Trachemys

I'm not sure really how to tell the difference is it the lighter skin? Cause yours looks like my youngest with the light skin and my Edgar's ears are an orange color
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Post Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 2:00 pm   Re: Taxonomy of the Trachemys

Well the pattern is a big indication my rio has distinct patters on his shell plus his skin has more defined markings as well. But as in any species some characteristics are more extreme then in others of that species. My turtle is less extreme than some in his family
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Post Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 2:38 pm   Re: Taxonomy of the Trachemys

I'm so very confused they all look so similar to me
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Post Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 2:40 pm   Re: Taxonomy of the Trachemys

My Edgar looks just like urs only smaller maybe he is a Rio as well idk. I'm gonna have to go to a real computer and do some research
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