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Post Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 5:01 pm   Res Behavioral and growth questions

Hey guys. 2 quick questions. I have 4 res all the same age. 1 of them is very tiny compared to the rest, I know they grow at different rates but there is a signifigant difference in size though. The weights are 10.7, 9.6, 7.3, and 4.2 ounces. The little guy is tiny. Do you guys think this is normal? Or should I be worried?

Second question, 1 of my res(the biggest) is very lathargic. She is more then happy to eat whenever I feed them, but when it's not feeding time she sits on the bottom of the tank and just closes her eyes. She's always there, once and a while I see her bask. Is this a personality thing? Or is this a symptom of her being egg bound or something? I didn't think she was old enough yet. She's 5" shell diameter and will be 2 in August. She was always a very shy turtle though even as a hatchling. She also shows no signs of sickness, eyes normal, doesn't make weeding sounds, and floats/swims/eats normal.

Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks a lot,
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Post Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2016 10:08 pm   Re: Res Behavioral and growth questions

They are probably outcompeting the smaller one for food. Time to feed them separately.

I'm not sure whats wrong with your larger female, is it possible she's being harassed?
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Post Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2016 10:54 pm   Re: Res Behavioral and growth questions

The little one eats. Every time I feed them I make sure he gets food.

There's 4 turtles. 3 females and a male. The male was peacocking to the big female a lot but I haven't seen it in a while. The male spends the majority of his time basking.
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Post Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2016 11:27 pm   Re: Res Behavioral and growth questions

The male's aggression will get worse. They're all in the same tank?
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Post Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 11:30 am   Re: Res Behavioral and growth questions

Yes all are in a 75 gallon tank.
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Post Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 8:38 am   Re: Res Behavioral and growth questions

Hopefully the females will get along, but you need to separate the male sooner or later.
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Post Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 10:21 am   Re: Res Behavioral and growth questions

I agree totally with Steve . I do think they are being competitive for food. Mine also do this but I make sure they all eat as you do as well. That had to result in the size difference for sure. Steve has also mentioned on another recent thread on territorial issues . The only other thing here that I see that you mentioned was possible an egg bound issue and you mentioned that you did not think so being that you felt that she was not old enough. I think you are right here. I do not know if you intend to breed them but this will correspond with what Steve stated on separation due to territorial issues.

The one turtle that you stated appears to be lethargic and resting on the bottom at times, does it do this all the times or sometimes? I have one that does this as well but it is not for long periods at all mainly in the wee hours of the morning and only sometimes she does. How often does yours?

Most breeders of reptiles in general, keep their breeders separated and even babies separated depending on the species. Baby snakes and many times of lizards can be cannibalistic as newborns, such as rat snakes, boas, pythons and of course kingsnakes, bearded dragons, water dragons, tequs and monitors for example. Though it does not happen often, it does sometimes. These are some examples. I am unaware if any species of turtles do this. But as sub adults and adults, breeders of all reptiles tend to keep them separate for the upcoming breeding cycles as well. The dominance factors and by keeping them separated during the year and going through the temperature cycles before courtship matters a great deal. It is like instant courtship and love at first sight sort of speak. With them being together year round even if they get along, the chances of the courtship seems less desired reducing your chances of successful copulation (though not in all cases but most, it reduces) . Breeders also due to the dominance issues tend to always place the females into the males enclosure during breeding and the reason for this is, the male is already used to his domain, he has explored it all this time and knows where he likes to be best during any given time. A female would not of been in his cage for a long time, once she enters in simple terms, her scent goes out to him and he is attracted directly to her all while she is exploring this new environment. With her scent being spread through his cage, he is not concerned about being dominant more than he is concerned about ummmm getting some fun and action in lol. Hope this helps a lot and it does corrispond somewhat on what both of you pointed out and various reasons why to keep them separated.
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