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Taking care of your turtle's overall health.

Post Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 12:02 am   I am that mom.

ok, I bought two baby turtles on a whim on Friday without any idea of the amount of care they would need. So, I am now trying to research and get them set up, but am getting resistance from my spouse. He used to have fish and is not willing to read up on the differences. I just pulled two lava rocks out of the tank because I am afraid they will scratch themselves, but he thinks they need more places to hide. http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k130/gour0/craigslist/DSC_2704.jpg This is what the tank looks like right now. We have two sliders. I think they are yellow eared, not red eared. They're about an inch each. This tank is 20 gallons. The water is 80 degrees. No heater. We bought a repto filter 90 gph and a zoo-med turtle dock which floats. I just bought a critter culture day basking bulb, but i need to buy a couple of clip on lamps and a uvb bulb. We have zoo-med hatchling formula food pellets, and a little bag of turtle pellets that came with them. I also bought water conditioner, but read on here that it isn't good for them. I realize we are a long way from having what they need, but I am working on it.
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Post Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 2:40 am   Re: I am that mom.

Hi, welcome to the site. Have they been basking and eating yet?
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Post Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 8:20 pm   Re: I am that mom.

I haven't really got them set up for basking yet. I think they are eating. My husband has been feeding them.
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Post Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 1:43 am   Re: I am that mom.

hide? ROFLOL! yeah they will quickly go from "hiding" to begging. You can walk by my 300g stock tank and out of nowhere 5 heads pop out of the water! anyways i re-read your post did you have a question?

Walmart/target/home depot they all have the clamp lamps. I would recommend from personal experience to go with a 150w one instead of the 75watt. They last WAY longer! The price difference is like 2$ and i still have my 150w and i have been through 2, 75watt lamps.

Also, the UVB bulb can be bought online for SO much cheaper than at a (local) pet store

http://www.amazon.com/Repti-Glo-Compact ... 0+uvb+bulb
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Post Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 8:48 am   Re: I am that mom.

The clamp lamp won't fit. We got one last night and it wouldn't even tilt down. I need to go see if I can get one with a flexible neck to try and bend it around. I am worried about what to feed them a day. I know it changes as they grow, but they are still little. Do you think there is enough water in the tank?
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Post Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 5:40 pm   Re: I am that mom.

You could fill the tank water to the bottom of the filter outlet. As for the lamp fixture you could get a reptile light stand to hang it over the basking area.
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Post Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 3:41 am   Re: I am that mom.

i would move the filter up higher, and fill the tank about 3/4, also a screen lid for that tank is about 5$ wouldn't be a bad way to go then you can just place the dome lights on the screen lid.

if you have the time, quick picks of the guys would help with what is needed for feeding, if not. what size are they?
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Post Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:51 am   Re: I am that mom.

I was so in your shoes a year ago. We came home from the beach at the end of July last year with a RES. I was totally deceived in the shop where we bought "her". We call her a her, because we were told she was female when we bought her. After the fact I found out you cannot tell until they are at least four inches long, but she will always be a her to us.

Anyway this is definitely not the cheapest way to go, but I bought the zoo med double dome lamp fixture (there is a mini, so that may be what I have but I think I have the regular one) and then bought the light stand like slider keeper mentioned to hang it on http://www.zoomed.com/db/products/Entry ... E6IjAiO30=
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I would also raise the water level as other have suggested.

I would buy a screen lid, but I would not put the light on it. That is what I originally did. Angelina was not basking. Once I got a thermometer for the basking are I realized why. I was trying to turn her into turtle soup. The temp was about 107 in the basking area with the light sitting on the screen lid. She wouldn't go up there, because it was too hot. That is when I bought the lamp stand. Love it! I can adjust the temp of the basking area just my raising or lowing the stand (it is adjustable). If the water level lowers from evaporation I can lower the lower the stand to keep the correct temp until it is time for tank maintenance.

As for feeling, babies should be fed pellets and veggies everyday. Once they are yearlings it goes to pellets everyother day and veggies everyday. Rule of thumb is to feed the amount of pellets that would fit inside their head only. Do not include their neck. Angelina was getting four or five of the baby pellets but she seemed to be growing too fast. Her shell was looking like she was being overfed. At that point I took her down to three baby pellets a day. Now that she is a year, she gets three baby pellets and one koi wheat germ pellet everyother day and veggies everyday. There is some great info here http://www.redearslider.com/index_nutrition.html

These people here are a wealth of knowledge. Feel free to ask anything. More than likely someone will know the answer.

I'm not sure how big YES grow but the rule for a RES is 10 gallons of water for every inch of shell. With two turtles, they will outgrow 20 gallons fast. When you upgrade, if you can, I recommend going as big as you can. Angelina started out in a 10 gallon and in January moved to her forever home of a 125 gallon tank with an FX5 filter. I bought the tank from craigslist, so got the tank and stand for much less than if I'd bought it new. The tank, stand and filter were a $500 investment, but I should never have to do an upgrade for her no matter how big she gets.
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Post Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 12:00 am   Re: I am that mom.

Do you use distilled water to fill the tank or is brita filtered tap ok? I thought we had a screen cover, but it might have been the 10 gallon tank...
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Post Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 5:38 am   Re: I am that mom.

Tap is fine :)
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Post Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 4:02 am   Re: I am that mom.

camee1991 wrote:Tap is fine :)



ehhhhhh, maybe - but only about 20-30% of peolpe have tap water that is "fine" I would "try" tap once and test it w/i a week and see what it reads. If it is fine, then your tap is ok.
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Post Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:17 am   Re: I am that mom.

I don't know how to test it.....
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Post Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 2:14 pm   Re: I am that mom.

If the uvb lamp is going to sit on the screen should it be 26 watts or 13 watts?
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Post Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 2:37 pm   Re: I am that mom.

or, can we put the uvb light in the florescent strip that sits on the screen?
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Post Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 4:02 pm   Re: I am that mom.

How close is the screen to the basking area?
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