General Care Discussion :: Releasing my babies to the Wild

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Post Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 7:50 pm   Releasing my babies to the Wild

Hi - I am about to release my two RES turtles into the wild and have a few questions about whether its the right thing to do...heres a little overview.

My friend got baby RES (4 of them) in California on vaca and brought them back to NJ - for the first year or so they were well cared for, fed, and had a wonderful enviornment. But as many come to realize, turtles are not easy to care for and require a lot of maintainace. Flash forward 5 years later. Only 2 turtles are left (estimated to be 4-5 yrs old) I think one male (Mikea) and one female (Mr. T). They were in a small tank, in a dark room, with only 2 inches of water - the tops of their shells were all dryed out and cracking, their water hadn't been changed in over a year (it was basically muck mud water), they were living in their own feces with nothing to bask on, or crawl out of the water onto, and hadn't been fed in over 3 weeks. So even though im not a turtle enthusiast (no offense to those of you who are, im more of a cat person myself) - I rescued the turtles and have been caring for them for just under a year. Now they basically have it made in turtle paradise. I revamped their 30 gallon tank, got them a water filter, UV basking light, multiple basking rocks, and a bunch of toys, plants, decorations. In the year that I have had them they have more than tripled their size - both of them! and are very heathly - And needless to say in this past year I have become rather attached to them.

Anyway - here is my plight. It breaks my hear but I can't really take care of them any longer. They are out growing their tank, cost way more money to maintain (3 different kinds of food, real plants, filters, etc) than I can afford, and with my advancing career I dont really have the time to dedicate to cleaning and maintaining their tank. My sister is a high school teacher and her school has an outdoor "peace" garden that has an open sky but is enclosed by 4 walls (the center of the school, outside but you can only enter the garden through the school). The garden has a pond, stream, sunlight, etc and virtually no predators. Also, its the ecology students job to care for the garden. The Ecology teacher has offered to take the RES's and explained that the class will slowly introduce the turtles to the pond and outdoor enviornment, and in the winter, will bring the turtles into the classroom to protect them from winter elements. Sounds too good to be true right? But now that im a turtle Mom - I want only the best for my babies...

Here are my concerns:

I live in northern NJ - we have nasty winters. Im nervous that if they are left outside and neglected to be brought in, they will die?

Also, Im afraid of how they will adapt to not being hand fed with pellets and shrimp on a set schedule. Will they be able to eat from the pond on their own, I dont think its stocked with fish, but has green life.

They have lived together in the same tank their entire lives. Will it be ok to seperate them into a large pond? Will they adapt from tank life to outside ok?

What about adapting to water temp? Their tank is kept at room temp - around 70 degrees, with a heat basking light all day. What if the pond temp is too cold for them and they get shocked? What temp is too cold?

I could go on and on (sorry for the longest post known to man) but basically - im just worried whether or not they will make it in the long run. Should I go for it? Im scheduled to bring them this weekend!

- Reluctant turtle lover
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Post Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 8:10 pm   

ooops - mabey I should have posted this in the "Outdoor" forum - sorry im a newcomer and need some fast advice - next time ill look around more before posting!
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Post Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 8:11 pm   

Hello Lindsey, I am glad you want to do the right thing for your rescued turtles... But what ever you do: DO NOT RELEASE THEM IN THE WILD!!!!

I don't know about the school, but I know that they will not survive in the wild...
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Post Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 8:14 pm   

Thanks for replying so quickly!

I use the term "wild" loosely. Like I said, they dont have any predators as its completely enclosed by 4 walls, open sky, and extremely large area - im really just worried about the basics - temperature, winter, food, adaption, etc.
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Post Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 8:27 pm   Re: Releasing my babies to the Wild

LindseyBrand wrote:The Ecology teacher has offered to take the RES's and explained that the class will slowly introduce the turtles to the pond and outdoor enviornment, and in the winter, will bring the turtles into the classroom to protect them from winter elements. Sounds too good to be true right? But now that im a turtle Mom - I want only the best for my babies...
Lindsey


If the teacher will care for the turtles properly, groom them, feed them, and maybe even educate their students about them. Make sure the teacher knows how to care for the turtles, maybe even introduce her to this site, to help 'em out. As long as someone is looking after the turtles properly, it seems fine to me. -A female turlte will probably destroy any land scaping, though.
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Post Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 8:40 pm   

You would be suprised what is out and about in north Jersey.....wild life wise.
You may want to look here:
http://www.turtlehomes.org/usa/orgs.shtml
Send an email to Katherine Doyle. She may be able to help out. Good luck.
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Post Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 11:17 pm   

Ok, so I'm thinking preditors would be limited...birds only. I'm not sure on what types of birds you have and which are threats, so that would be your research.

There are many people on here who keep their turtles outside for the summer and inside for the winter. I would stress the proper care to the teacher you are considering. Does she know when to bring them in? Does she know about feeding? You can make a basic care sheet for her, and then, like Rush said, direct her to this site. This site could even be a resource for her students. Maybe if you are willing and she wants, you could even speak to the class on proper care and its importance.

Once concern that I would have, what happens to the turtle in the summer?
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Post Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 12:58 am   

The outdoor area sounds very well protected. I think it would be a real benefit to the turtles to get some actual sun for a change. I've talked to several teachers who have kept turtles for their students for many years very sucessfully. The students are constantly changing so don't have time to get bored with them. I would think that a high school ecology teacher would have high principles regarding the care of animals. I think Missi's question about who would look after them in summer is good - make sure it's covered. Also, make sure the ecology teacher has a good indoor physical environment to start off with - plenty of space, good heaters, lights, filter. I'll bet the school would provide some funding for it as a lab project.
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Post Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 1:25 am   

I think we all understand your position here. I just have a few questions myself - How large is the pond? Are there basking areas? Who are the other inhabitants in the pond?

The current pond setup may need to be re-adjusted to be more turtle friendly. There are NJ-based reptile organizations that might offer you advice based on your location.
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Post Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 1:38 am   

I saw the headline and my heart leapt into my throat.

I think it's important that the ecology teacher understand that turtles can be very destructive to ponds. They poop, they eat plants, they dig, they tear things up, etc. They have to be fed, the water quality must be monitored, more etc.

DOes the teacher have the facilities to keep them indoors during the winter? Once they are grown up, they will be too big for an aquarium.

Anyway, Ithink it's important that the teacher know what s/he is getting in to, and that they understand what a long-term commitment the turtles are, and what to do if they don't want them anymore.
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Post Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 11:43 am   

You shouldn't have used the word wild...
I think this sounds like a great idea.
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