General Care Discussion :: Found a live baby red eared slider in pool skimmer.

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Post Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 1:22 pm   Found a live baby red eared slider in pool skimmer.

I live in the Dallas Fort-Worth metroplex and over the past week there has been considerably strong rain, wind, and thunder storms. My home is in a residential neighborhood and is about 1 mile from the nearest natural body of water, which is a small creek.

Two days ago, I decided that I'd better clean out the pool's skimmer and filters, as they'd most likely be packed with debree due to the storms. To my surprise, upon opening up the skimmer lid, I saw a half-dollar coin sized turtle trying its best to not get sucked down into the vortex created by the skimmer's doward suction through the filter. I immediately turned off the pool's pump and prepared an old fish tank for the little turtle. I've never owned a turtle before, so I Google'd to get info and here I am.

My question to you all is this. How did a half dollar sized turtle end up in my pool? My pool is heavily chlorinated, so how did that not kill the turtle? How long could he have been swimming without drowning due to not being able to exit the water?

I find it hard to believe that a small little turtle would have walked 1 mile, uphill, across streets, and through a residential neighborhood and then under my backyard fence in order to plop himself into my pool. Do birds every grab these little guys and take them into the air? Could a tornado have sucked him into the sky, only to have him fall down into my pool? There were much larger and heavier objects thrown into my pool, from some unknown origin, by the storm's winds. So my guess is that the little turtle flew his way into my pool. Has anything like this ever happened to anybody else?
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Post Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 1:31 pm   

Well, miracles can happen. :) If there were strong winds and rain, perhaps he was partly washed that distance. However, I think it's more likely that he hatched from a nest that wasn't as far away as the creek. The female had probably left the creek to dig a nest and lay eggs (and they can do some walking to find a spot that they find suitable).

He survived being in the skimmer because he was lucky enough not to get sucked down it and he still had air to breathe. He was very lucky that you decided to do some cleaning, though. :) Do you have a picture of him?
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Post Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 1:37 pm   

Wow that's pretty neat! How long was it between the last storm and when you found the turtle? I doubt he was in the skimmer part very long since he would eventually tire out and drown trying to fight the suction. How does his skin and shell appear? If he has good color and the skin seems healthy then he probably wasn't in the chlorinated water to more than a couple of hours at most, I would guess. I recommend that you buy some water conditioner from the pet store (like Novaqua) and add it to his tank water according to the directions on the bottle. That will help with any skin damage caused by the chlorine.

It's very possible that the little guy was picked up by the winds and dropped in your pool. What an experience that must have been! It's also possible that it's an escaped pet from one of your neighbor's kids.

He he...if it's a boy you should call him Toto and if it's a girl call her Dorothy! ;) (you won't be able to tell until it get's bigger unfortunately)
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Post Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 2:13 pm   

I'm in the Dallas area too and live about a half mile from a stream. My turtle showed up in the backyard three and a half years ago like yours after some storms except mine showed up just before Thanksgiving. He was about silver dollar sized - slightly larger (older) than yours. We didn't have a pool and he was underneath some leaves where he apparently was planning to hibernate for the winter. He'd have frozen, of course. He was dehydrated and hungry but survived.

If they are healthy to begin with, sliders can be remarkably tough. I don't know how long it had been since my guy had eaten - a long time - and the weather had already turned cold but he did it.
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Post Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 3:13 pm   

I'll post a picture of the little adventurer later tonight when I get home. I like the idea of the names Toto and Dorothy. Though I was also considering "Odysseus", if it turns out to be a male, due to the adventure that he must have gone on. Odysseus also almost lost his life to a vortex, if I remember the story correctly.

I got water conditioner, waste break down treatment, and a white chalky turtle shaped stone-like thing that is also supposed to help improve the water. I also got a UVB lamp and a ramp shaped ceramic basking stone. However, his tank is currently small at 10 gallons, and I don't have any filtration system. If I decide to keep him, I'll get a much larger tank and a filtration system.

Is there a site that has a list of pictures of ailments that I should check my turtle out for? He seems to look OK, and he is eating his Reptomin baby pellets... but I want to know how to visually inspect him for any other problems.

Also, I am very paranoid about salmonella, after educating myself about turtles on the web, so I only handle the little guy and his habitat with disposable medical gloves... and I then wash my hands and forearms with soap and water after discarding the gloves. Is that excessive? How worried should I be?
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Post Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 3:31 pm   

Yea, Odysseus is an appropriate name too, considering where you found him. :)

Sounds like you got a good setup going there. The white turtle block thing may not be a good idea, but I'm not sure. I've heard others recommending not to use them, i don't think they're necessary. You might want to get a water heater and thermometer. A baby RES should be kept in water that's around 78 degrees. You will also need a regular household bulb with the UVB bulb to provide heat on the basking area which should be around 88 to 90 degrees.

You can take a look at the health section on this forum's main website as there is a lot of really good information there. As far as pictures are concerned, the only things they will provide are visuals for malformed shells (usually in older turtles), fungus and shell rot. But you'll notice those problems by yourself if they do pop up. The thing to really watch out for with a baby turtle is respiratory infection (RI) which can be caused by keeping the temperatures too low or keeping the turtle near a cold drafty window or an air conditioner. Also, swelling eyes which can be caused by having the UVB light too strong or too close or by poor water quality. And fungus or shell rot from not having an adequate basking area to completely dry himself off on every day. Read up on the health guides, actually, on all of the guides and you'll know better of what to look out for and how to prevent problems.

Most everyone here has had their turtle's for a while and never had salmonella. There's only been one recent case here that I know of. As long as you wash your hands after handling the turtle or his water, you should be fine. The greatest danger is to small children, the elderly, or anyone with a compromised immune system. You can't get it through your skin, only through your mouth, so don't get the turtle or his water on your food or on anything that you might use to prepare food, and don't put your fingers in your mouth while handling the turtle. :)
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Post Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 3:32 pm   

Hi Jagasian,

wow, sounds like the little guy went through a lot to get to you! He's lucky you found him and care enough to take care of him.

From my understanding, not all turtles carry salmonella. But some do, so it's a precautionary thing. Just wash your hands before and after you handle him his water, etc... The gloves aren't really necessary.

If you can post a bunch of pictures of him on here from different angles, showing top, bottom, front, back, the people on here would be able to identify any problems. There are lots of very knowledgable people here!
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Post Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 10:52 am   

aaaaaaw that turtle did go through a lot to meet you lol.
yeah, thier is some verry knowledgable people to answer all of your questions on this forum.
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Post Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 10:34 pm   

Here is a picture of little Odysseus, the baby RES that I found in my pool skimmer. I am not good with a camera, and believe it or not, this is the best picture out of 10 or so that I took. Some of his skin around his neck is starting to flake off, and his knees are kind of whiter than the rest of his skin. Is that a sign of shedding? Also, his shell has some strage discoloration in spots, as you can see in the picture.

As I have said, there is no telling how long he was in my pool, and my pool has a very high level of chlorine in it. He is eating and has a huge appetite. I am feeding him 2 Reptomin Baby Sticks a day. His water is treated with ZooMed Reptisafe and Bio Care Turtle Clean. He has a ceramic basking stone, a 60 watt incandescent bulb, and a 5.0 UVB compact flourescent.

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Post Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 10:44 pm   

I personally would normally say the normal lecture "Blah blah blah don't take animals from the wild blah blah blah" but seeing as it's not very old, I wouldn't see a problem. It will probably be better off.

Salmonella, bleh. I got it a couple weeks ago cause I didn't wash my hands. It's just the stomach flu and only lasts 3 days, so don't get overworked. It was the only time in the 8 years i've had reptiles.
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Post Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 12:26 am   

Great looking turtle. The top of his head looks slightly discolored to me? Maybe it's just me.

The spots on his shell don't look real bad. My MAP has had some spots that look like that since I got him and he's starting to shed them away. In my case they weren't shell rot or anything.

Sounds like you're doing a great job getting everything you need to take care of the little guy! I applaud you. How much are you feeding the little guy? Have you looked at the nutrition section of the website? I only ask because a lot of people have a tendency to overfeed these hungry little beasts. :)
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Post Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 1:57 am   

I think she looks great and you sound like you want to keep it... so do... I was just going to post how happy my cheech & chong have made me since I got them a month ago or so...

She survived and got to your pool because some higher power wanted you to take care of it. I know that sounds gay so sue me.
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Post Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 9:30 am   

LOL, cheech, you're advice sounds good! You can leave out the "so sue me part".
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Post Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 5:54 pm   

He looks OK to me.....Since he travelled such a long way to get to your pool filter, I say keep him. It would probably be easier than trying to take him back. Just keep a close eye on him for now, he may not show any affects from the chlorine bath for up to a week.
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Post Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 7:52 pm   

I am feeding Odysseus 4 Reptomin Baby Sticks a day. He eats them all in under 5 minutes, which according to the label on the packaging of the food implies that 4 sticks is not too much food per day. However, people on this site say to not feed more sticks than could fit inside a container the same size as his head. Still, 4 sticks seems to be about the size of his head.

Considering that he is about 2 inches in length, is 4 Reptomin Baby sticks enough or too many?
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