General Care Discussion :: Trying to sex my turtles

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Post Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 3:07 pm   Trying to sex my turtles

Buddy, my oldest turtle is about 8 or 9 months old now, while Spike is about 7 months old. When I took Spike to the vet a few weeks ago to be treated for a blood infection, the doctor said Spike was a male. I'm not sure about Buddy, but due to his recent and somewhat promiscuous behavior lately with Spike, I'm wondering what gender they are.

Here are some pictures:
Buddy
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Spike
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Sorry about the pictures of Spike. He has never been very photogenic.
4.25'' Florida Cooter Male - Buddy
3.5'' Ouachita Map (or False Map) - Spike
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Post Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 3:21 pm   

Buddy's tail is impressive & based on that & the facial expression, I would guess male. I would keep an eye on him over the next 6 months & see if those front nails grow. I would guess that he is starting to go thru puberty right now. The tail is usually the first sign, followed by the front claws.

With Spike, I would like to see him/her grow at least another 1/2-1 inch before making a decision. I think Spike is still too small, based on his/her size in your hand.
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Post Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 3:56 pm   

I don't think Buddy is a YBS... Can you post pictures of his face?
He looks like a River cooter to me, maybe the same species as mine!
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Post Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 4:43 pm   

I guess he could be a cooter. The place I got him from listed him as a "Yellow Belly". They also had a florida red belly turtle, but Buddy has a yellow belly.
4.25'' Florida Cooter Male - Buddy
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Post Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 4:46 pm   

LOL the place where I got Serra she was labelled as a YBS, too. Buddy looks like a female Eastern River Cooter.

Er...She'll grow huge, like 12-16 inches.
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Post Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 4:49 pm   

Yeah. After looking online, Buddy does look a lot like a Cooter. Unfortunately ATP only had information on the Florida Cooter when I was trying to look up his species. Now I am thinking he may be a Cooter, though I am not sure what kind.
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Post Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 5:25 pm   

I'm posting some pretty decent pictures to help identify exactly what Buddy's genus/species is. The more I look at him now, the more orange his belly looks, which leads me to suspect maybe a Florida Red Belly. I kinda feel bad thinking he was a different genus this whole time.

BTW, click on the picture to get a bigger one. It will also lead you to my turtle gallery on Picasa galleries.
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The stripe down his hind foot leads me to believe he could be an Eastern River Cooter, as stated on http://www.turtlepuddle.org/american/cooter.html
4.25'' Florida Cooter Male - Buddy
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Post Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 5:38 pm   

lol it's an Eastern River Cooter, same species as my lil Serra!

You'll need something like 150 gallon tank for her when she's grown up, though...lol
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Post Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 5:42 pm   

I plan on getting a pond eventually...when I graduate college and get a house. Good to see someone with the same species as me, though! I might have to separate Buddy and Spike in the future since it is looking like Buddy will be 2-3 times large than Spike if Spike is a male.
4.25'' Florida Cooter Male - Buddy
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Post Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 5:46 pm   

Buddy is a female, just to answer your question...lol
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Post Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 5:49 pm   

I plan on getting a pond eventually...when I graduate college and get a house. Good to see someone with the same species as me, though! I might have to separate Buddy and Spike in the future since it is looking like Buddy will be 2-3 times large than Spike if Spike is a male. My only thing is that I don't think Buddy has the "C-shaped" markings that distinguish Eastern Rivers from Floridas. Here is a picture of Buddy and Spike when they were very young, and there don't appear to be any C's.

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Thanks for sexing Buddy for me. Of course, you know, this gives me 2 dilemmas. 1) What is Buddy doing to Spike (see my first post, click on the link for the promiscuous behavior) and 2) What should I rename Buddy?
4.25'' Florida Cooter Male - Buddy
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Post Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 6:17 pm   

Hmm then again, by looking at the carapace patterns it doesn't look like a pure Eastern river cooter. Buddy looks like a mix of hieroglyphic cooter and Eastern river cooter.

Here's a picture of my Serra when she was a baby just for comparison
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1 Chinese Box turtle ~ Chief Lemon
2 Redfoot Tortoises ~ Sheegua & Muugua
1 Toy Poodle ~ Pudding
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